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Yes, not as many S.Asians in N.Ireland so maybe they have a different definition of 'Asian' than the English. I'm sure, however, that increasingly Brits are also referring to other Asians as 'Asian.' Still though it's more common for Brits than Americans or Australians to specifically call an Asian a 'Chinese' even if they may be from Korea or Thailand.
Good points. When I was in Oakland, we had two Asians at my job. A lady came in and asked if anyone spoke Chinese. The guy, a manager, asked which form and she said Mandarin. He replied "can't help you". He was of Cantonese origin like most people in Oakland and San Francisco. there was another girl and everyone pointed to her saying she's Chinese, maybe she speaks it. Me and her had to explain that she wasn't Chinese but Vietnamese and they are not and do not speak Chinese.
In America, the first dividing line is always skin color. So many - if not most - Americans will see Asians as white/cream skinned Chinese, Japanese, and Koreans. The darkness of most Indians and Pakistani people will trip the circuit breaker and exclude them as people from Asia.
In fact I would bet the darker Cambodian, Malaysian, Vietnamese, and others would probably make them think "hispanic" before Asian.
Hispanic refers to culture. As Hispanics can refer to any race, as long as they have Spanish language or culture ties so it's not like they can look only one way.
None of those people have ties with Spain, physical appearance or otherwise, anyways so the point is moot.
Only a small part of the coast in Humbolt County are older hippies. Most of the people in that part of CA are conservative, libertarians types who want to secede from CA and form their own state. Ok, maybe most don't want to secede but most are conservative. Visit the CA forum for those threads.
We don't so much get immigration from China of Cantonese. What happens is, they come over as illegals, often stowed away on cargo ships. About 15 years ago, a large raft was spotted by the US Coast Guard off the coast of Baja Mexico that contained a large number of Chinese attempting to enter Mexico and from there, they may enter the US. Some stay in Mexico. After Mexicans, Chinese are probably the largest illegal immigrant population in California. At least it used to be although Salvadorans could have replaced them.
Really, still? I didn't think there were any Chinese illegals. Most of the Chinese here are legal, though some are illegal, but they come on planes, not boats.
Regarding 'boat people' most are poor refugees fleeing from Afghanistan, Iraq, India, Sri Lanka, Burma, often from dangerous conflict.
Hispanic refers to culture. As Hispanics can refer to any race, as long as they have Spanish language or culture ties so it's not like they can look only one way.
None of those people have ties with Spain, physical appearance or otherwise, anyways so the point is moot.
Yeah, I'm not going to split hairs with you. I know all that. However, when you live in a state with a high Hispanic population, Hispanic starts to take on a look most can recognize whether you choose to believe it or not. the people mentioned in that post are never mistaken for Hispanic. Vietnamese and Chinese maybe but it's very obvious they are not Hispanic. Filipinos even look distinct from those groups.
Really, still? I didn't think there were any Chinese illegals. Most of the Chinese here are legal, though some are illegal, but they come on planes, not boats.
Regarding 'boat people' most are poor refugees fleeing from Afghanistan, Iraq, India, Sri Lanka, Burma, often from dangerous conflict.
True, I haven't heard of it happening recently but it used to. In cities like San Francisco however, there are still large numbers of illegal Chinese in the city. The city immigration office is filled with mostly Chinese in the same way most other offices are filled with Hispanics. I even heard about some Chinese illegals being deported when I was in the Bay Area. Here, "boat people" always refers to Chinese or people who are thought to be Chinese. Vietnamese, Cambodians and Laotians have refugee status. Japanese immigrated legally. So did most Koreans.
Really, still? I didn't think there were any Chinese illegals. Most of the Chinese here are legal, though some are illegal, but they come on planes, not boats.
Regarding Chinese illegals in the US vs. Australia, wouldn't you expect the opposite? Australia is far closer and easier to reach for them by boat.
Regarding Chinese illegals in the US vs. Australia, wouldn't you expect the opposite? Australia is far closer and easier to reach for them by boat.
That's a good point but considering how many Chinese have come here. many of these people probably have family in the US so it's worth the risk and longer journey.
In America, the first dividing line is always skin color. So many - if not most - Americans will see Asians as white/cream skinned Chinese, Japanese, and Koreans. The darkness of most Indians and Pakistani people will trip the circuit breaker and exclude them as people from Asia.
In fact I would bet the darker Cambodian, Malaysian, Vietnamese, and others would probably make them think "hispanic" before Asian.
Maybe some Filipinos, Malays and a small minority of Khmer, but certainly not Vietnamese, who are more often confused with the first three. But yeah, it's pretty easy to tell Hispanics and Filipinos apart though some Hispanics do look a bit Asian too.
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