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Old 01-28-2014, 09:00 AM
 
Location: East coast
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New Zealand, although a small country, is diverse even if you use a "racial" definition, as it has lots of native-descended people.


New Zealand - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In the 2006 census, 67.6 percent identified ethnically as European and 14.6 percent as Māori.[236] Other major ethnic groups include Asian (9.2 percent) and Pacific peoples (6.9 percent), while 11.1 percent identified themselves simply as a "New Zealander" (or similar) and 1 percent identified with other ethnicities.[237]
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Old 01-28-2014, 09:06 AM
 
Location: On the "Left Coast", somewhere in "the Land of Fruits & Nuts"
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^ ^ Yeah, but with a population density of only 39 people per square mile (about half the U.S.), they're probably lucky if they even see each other (…lol)!

Population Density per Square Mile of Countries
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Old 01-28-2014, 09:14 AM
 
Location: London, UK
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Canada seems most liberal while the United States the least liberal but as some as said large portions of the USA is very liberal like the Pacific Northwest and New England while the deep south is very conservative. Because of this split in conservatism and Liberalism the USA could be less liberal than say Australia but not drastically so.

For Australia and New Zealand I'd say there really similar.

Rank most to least liberal


Canada
United States
New Zealand
Australia


Canada seems very liberal to me and progressive.

So I put the United States second to most liberal because I think the majority of the Country is open minded from the West coast, Colorado, New England States and the upper Midwest I'd say is liberal to varying degrees. Even the so called bible belt, I'm sure the larger cities are not all that conservative.

I have this notion that Australia is quite sexist and racist, too.
Violence against Indians in Australia controversy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Why does the world think Australia is racist? | Sally Rawsthorne | Comment is free | theguardian.com

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“Listen to white people there talk about Abo’s on welfare, and you’ll quickly realise America doesn’t really have a race problem,”
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As seen in the Challenging Racism report, we see ourselves as believers in multiculturalism and diversity. But this is obviously in direct contrast with how we are seen on a world stage. Type “Why are Australians” into Google, and wait for the autofill to ask you “Why are Australians so racist?” The disconnect between the perspective espoused by the Challenging Racism Report and the observations made by our foreign friends must surely undermine any confidence we have that Australia is a multicultural place where a fair go is offered to all.
NZ seems like Australia but more open minded. Which is the complete oppostie of NZ, their native peoples are not undermined like how aboriginals or ''abo's'' are in Australia.
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Old 01-28-2014, 11:14 AM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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NZ, Australia and Canada would probably be much the same, with the US lagging at the bottom, due to the death penalty.
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Old 01-28-2014, 11:48 AM
 
Location: Leeds, UK
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I'd say Canada and New Zealand are at the front.
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Old 01-28-2014, 12:26 PM
 
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I have this notion that Australia is quite sexist and racist, too.
Violence against Indians in Australia controversy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Why does the world think Australia is racist? | Sally Rawsthorne | Comment is free | theguardian.com

NZ seems like Australia but more open minded. Which is the complete oppostie of NZ, their native peoples are not undermined like how aboriginals or ''abo's'' are in Australia.
A large proportion of immigration from NZ to Aus are Maori, Pacific Islander and other minority groups. In terms of which country offers them a better future, they are voting with their feet. I've certainly heard some very caustic views on New Zealand's race relations from Maori now living in Australia. Similarly, Australia has never experienced the types of confrontations between aboriginal peoples and wider society that occurred in Canada in the 1970s and later. Nor has it experienced the type racial violence that the US (and UK) has seen.

But while I wouldn't say Aus is less racist than those countries overall; I certainly wouldn't say its more racist either.

Seriously, you seem to be basing your views of Aus on the typical reporting in the UK media, which is invariably skewed, simplistic and unsophisticated and more of a projection of UK attitudes than anything else.

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Old 01-28-2014, 04:15 PM
 
Location: Brisbane
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A large proportion of immigration from NZ to Aus are Maori, Pacific Islander and other minority groups. In terms of which country offers them a better future, they are voting with their feet. I've certainly heard some very caustic views on New Zealand's race relations from Maori now living in Australia. Similarly, Australia has never experienced the types of confrontations between aboriginal peoples and wider society that occurred in Canada in the 1970s and later. Nor has it experienced the type racial violence that the US (and UK) has seen.

But while I wouldn't say Aus is less racist than those countries overall; I certainly wouldn't say its more racist either.

Seriously, you seem to be basing your views of Aus on the typical reporting in the UK media, which is invariably skewed, simplistic and unsophisticated and more of a projection of UK attitudes than anything else.
Certainly when someone mentions people from New Zealand the first thing that comes to my mind these days is a person who is NOT white.

I have read that the southern suburbs of Metro Brisbane and Gold Coast Reigon is home to the second largest population of Maori in the world after Auckland.

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Old 01-28-2014, 04:35 PM
 
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Canada seems most liberal while the United States the least liberal but as some as said large portions of the USA is very liberal like the Pacific Northwest and New England while the deep south is very conservative. Because of this split in conservatism and Liberalism the USA could be less liberal than say Australia but not drastically so.

For Australia and New Zealand I'd say there really similar.

Rank most to least liberal

Canada
United States
New Zealand
Australia


Canada seems very liberal to me and progressive.

So I put the United States second to most liberal because I think the majority of the Country is open minded from the West coast, Colorado, New England States and the upper Midwest I'd say is liberal to varying degrees. Even the so called bible belt, I'm sure the larger cities are not all that conservative.

I have this notion that Australia is quite sexist and racist, too.
Violence against Indians in Australia controversy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Why does the world think Australia is racist? | Sally Rawsthorne | Comment is free | theguardian.com



NZ seems like Australia but more open minded. Which is the complete oppostie of NZ, their native peoples are not undermined like how aboriginals or ''abo's'' are in Australia.
Jesus Christ.

There were no racially motivated attacks against Indians in Australia.

Please do not use that word for Aboriginals. Remember, it was those of British ancestry that treated them so horrifically.

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Old 01-28-2014, 05:13 PM
 
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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the usa is much more diverse than those other countries

san Francisco and new England are more liberal than the vast majority of new Zealand and Australia , by contrast Alabama is far more conservative than any part of rural Australia or new Zealand , the biggest difference here is that rural Australia and new Zealand are not religious where as rural usa and probably Canada , are
Australia has more overseas born, and we're very diverse. Remember the US is much more than California or New York, or Chicago.etc. On the whole Australia is more diverse and more international than the States.
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Old 01-28-2014, 05:27 PM
 
Location: London, UK
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Jesus Christ.

There were no racially motivated attacks against Indians in Australia.

Please do not use that word for Aboriginals. Remember, it was those of British ancestry that treated them so horrifically.
Yeah sure they were no racially motivated attacks against Indians in Australia that's why there's so many articles about it online. And I was using that term to quote what Australians currently call Aboriginals and by the way you can't blame Britons for the mistreatment of Aboriginals.
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