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Telling someone you feel sorry for them who are happy the way they are is condescending. I'd be rather annoyed that someone feels sorry for my lifestyle. Do you realize the first paragraph has nothing to do with the thread topic?
Try putting a thread on the NYC forum saying I feel sorry for you who have to take the subway every day. Some will agree because they don't like the subway. Most will be "who is this #$% out of towner criticizing our city?"
Many Singaporeans travel widely so they also take transit systems in major cities in china, us , europe etc.
Some do complain and whine a lot including true blue singaporeans, but some live well with it.
Definitely there is room for improvement and we will improve , but i guess ultimately all is a matter of how one integrates into the place and lifestyle . Which well is a matter of fit... Some fit , some don't ..Period
Yesterday one of the Singaporean ladies at the dinner, the sister of our friend who invited us, said that Goh was basically pushed out by LKY and his son, is there any truth to that complain?
Well yes, I suppose some complain too. Still, Singapore has it's good and bad. Isn't it's standard of living/GDP per capita already the same as Switzerland? Life expectancy there is now the highest in the world.
Goh stepped Down as PM simply because he was of the age to go already , I would think there is no truth he was kicked out. By a few years time, Harry's son will have to go as PM too, but whether he will go off in good note is hard to say .
We dun bother about GdP when it comes to SWiss standard of living l. What we want is work life balance an quality of life that is off Swiss standard
Associated with poverty and/or old age in most cities. In some cities, many bus routes are almost empty. I live in a rural area, so no regular transit here. However, nearby is a small city (Duluth) with a fairly extensive bus transit system. The routes that go through poor neighborhoods are crowded, while those that pass through more affluent (NOT rich) areas go virtually unridden. Even the university I attended was only serviced by the bus once an hour at best, and I counted, at most, five or six other riders. (I had my own car and lived at home all throughout college, but rode the bus after I totaled my first car, and after I had a seizure, among other times). This university has a residency requirement for freshmen and sophomores, and it is common to not have a car on campus. Most of these students just get rides with their friends.
Getting your license at 16 or so used to be a rite of passage. It's less sought after today, I hear, but the kids who don't get their licenses at 16 or 17 don't take the bus, they get rides from their friends.
In general, if you ride the bus here, you probably don't have a car and/or license, which means you probably can't afford one, which means you are probably a member of the most downtrodden group of people. Car ownership is still cheap, however, in the U.S.
It's considered an essential mark of adulthood to have a license and car available to you here, basically.
In some, however (e.g. Manhattan, D.C.) all walks of life ride transit, although the richest might have their own private drivers or helicopters.
One thing that is evident is that rail-based transit (subways, light rail) increases the probability that the better-off will ride. I've heard a joke about this, that the only way to get "white people" to ride transit is to expand rail-based systems.
Many Singaporeans travel widely so they also take transit systems in major cities in china, us , europe etc.
Some do complain and whine a lot including true blue singaporeans, but some live well with it.
Definitely there is room for improvement and we will improve , but i guess ultimately all is a matter of how one integrates into the place and lifestyle . Which well is a matter of fit... Some fit , some don't ..Period
I think the biggest complaint I'd have about Singapore is the low vacation time and stressful work hours, but the US has the same problem.
One good thing about Singapore is it's close to a lot of places so it's easy for a weekend getaway.
Rail transport is actually rather pricey - some season tickets cost well over £1,000, although it depends on how far you're traveling. I get the train, and it's only around £2.70 to my place of work and back, which is no more expensive than the bus, but a lot quicker.
Commuting from a 'bedroom community' will obviously cost a lot more. 12 monthly season tickets from Northampton to London costs £6032 a year. An annual season ticket from Ilkley to Leeds is £1,156 - and Ilkley is much closer to Leeds than Northampton is to London.
Rail transport is actually rather pricey - some annual tickets cost over £1,000, although it depends on how far you're traveling. I get the train, and it's only around £2.70 there and back, which is no more expensive than the bus, but a lot quicker.
Yeah the tube is like 7 pounds for a day ticket and 4 pounds for one way! They need to make it cheaper imo.
Driving in London is insane. I really have no idea why anyone would put themselves through such an ordeal. I remember seeing an ambulance stuck in gridlock during a traffic jam in London. No wonder they use air ambulances more often.
I don't think sadgirl80 is just unhappy with Singapore's transport system , she just hate Singapore and eveything about it as she can't see anything positive. She hates how SIngapore claims to be multilingual, our people views and how we rule our Microstate. Not only our transport system
But no worries , we do have some US expats who come to SIngapore and simply love it here, those who don't leave after sometime .
Rail transport is actually rather pricey - some season tickets cost well over £1,000, although it depends on how far you're traveling. I get the train, and it's only around £2.70 to my place of work and back, which is no more expensive than the bus, but a lot quicker.
Sounds ideal, assuming the commute is short.
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Commuting from a 'bedroom community' will obviously cost a lot more. 12 monthly season tickets from Northampton to London costs £6032 a year. An annual season ticket from Ilkley to Leeds is £1,156 - and Ilkley is much closer to Leeds than Northampton is to London.
Not many 'downtrodden' people can afford that.
My mom's LIRR ticket is about $3600 / year. It's not as bad as it sounds, as driving the same would be about $2500 in gas alone, though possibly a bit cheaper depending on gas mileage. NYC rail is fared differently than London. London places the underground and mainline rail on the same, zoned fare system. NYC has the same fare on the local bus and subway regardless of distance while the mainline rail is on a separate pricier, zoned system. A strange result is you can go 30 miles by bus, then subway transfer for $2.50 or take a mainline train for the same route for several times more, the latter is more expensive.
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One thing that is evident is that rail-based transit (subways, light rail) increases the probability that the better-off will ride. I've heard a joke about this, that the only way to get "white people" to ride transit is to expand rail-based systems.
I think that's a bit overstated. Cities that have trains tend to just have better transit overall and get more people who will choose transit besides just financial necessity. The DC bus riders are poorer than the subway riders, but that's partially because people going to downtown jobs will tend to use the subway and the subway serves wealthy suburbs. Seattle gets a higher transit ridership rate than Portland, even though it's wealthier and has few trains compared to Portland. Manhattan buses are whiter than the subway, because the buses serve local residents while the subways are also ridden by people living further out in more diverse neighborhoods.
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