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Old 02-14-2014, 11:57 PM
 
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Prefer Central/South America...or even Caribbean. What's easiest place to relocate to for good? Got a family of 5 wanting to leave US within next 3 years or so...prefer somewhere where COL is cheaper than US and is more socially conservative than the US. Someone suggested Chile to me.
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Old 02-15-2014, 12:29 AM
 
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Do you have any skills or are you wealthy?

I should tell you right now, most nations you are looking at don't allow gun possession at will, probably have some form of socialized medicine or universal healthcare, high crime, expensive quality housing, low salaries, etc.

PS, if you are not wealthy, and without valuable skills that are in demand, you are not going anywhere.

By the way, Chile has socialized medicine
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Old 02-15-2014, 06:22 AM
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It is difficult to relocate to most places in the world as you first must get a permanent residency visa in those countries and do so you usually have to show have some skills that they need there or have a large sum of money to invest in that other country.

In the Caribbean, you could go to the U.S. Virgin Islands and Puerto Rico as Americans without a visa issue.
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Old 02-15-2014, 08:36 AM
 
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Do you have any skills or are you wealthy?

I should tell you right now, most nations you are looking at don't allow gun possession at will, probably have some form of socialized medicine or universal healthcare, high crime, expensive quality housing, low salaries, etc.

PS, if you are not wealthy, and without valuable skills that are in demand, you are not going anywhere.

By the way, Chile has socialized medicine
No not wealthy at all. Socialized medicine is fine with me.

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It is difficult to relocate to most places in the world as you first must get a permanent residency visa in those countries and do so you usually have to show have some skills that they need there or have a large sum of money to invest in that other country.

In the Caribbean, you could go to the U.S. Virgin Islands and Puerto Rico as Americans without a visa issue.
Yeah that's not a bad idea...guess I need to hit the lottery LOL...
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Old 02-15-2014, 08:45 AM
 
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Take a map and a PC and check the immigration requirements of every South American country. Then post your findings here for others to enjoy.
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Old 02-15-2014, 09:57 AM
 
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Prefer Central/South America...or even Caribbean. What's easiest place to relocate to for good? Got a family of 5 wanting to leave US within next 3 years or so...prefer somewhere where COL is cheaper than US and is more socially conservative than the US. Someone suggested Chile to me.
Where ever you go you'll either need to start a business, buy a property and live there or get an investment visa. Do you work from home or have the ability to make a living without being connected to one place? Do you know Spanish well enough to get around Central or South America? These are all things that you should consider if you haven't already. There are plenty of places that are cheaper with a lower cost of living but are those places going to meet your expectations in terms of standards? Also the US is fairly conservative when compared to the rest of the world. Chile is probably your best bet if you stay in the Americas.
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Old 02-15-2014, 10:29 AM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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I believe, at the moment, it is Svalbard (Spitzbergen). technically Norwegian territory. Just get off the boat and do what you please, stay as long as you like.
http://www.sysselmannen.no/en/Visito...and-residence/

When I first moved to Paraguay, they just stamped my passport at the border and nobody ever said anything about how long I could stay. But that has now changed, and for an American, it requires a $100 single entry visa for a 60-day visit (same as Bolivia and Chile). All other nationalities, no visa required. It's called a "reciprocity penalty", because of the way the US screws over and rips off Paraguayans (and most other non-European nationalities) who would like to visit the US.

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Old 02-15-2014, 11:56 AM
 
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I believe, at the moment, it is Svalbard (Spitzbergen). technically Norwegian territory. Just get off the boat and do what you please, stay as long as you like.
Entry and residence - Sysselmannen
I do not know about that:

"The Governor can reject persons who do not have the sufficient means to support themselves. Therefore, it is advisable to secure housing and employment before deciding to settle in Svalbard."

"It is difficult to find work in Longyearbyen, and Norwegian is the main working language."

"The real estate market in Svalbard is different from the mainland. Most houses and apartments are owned by companies and institutions that provide them to their employees as part of the work relationship. In other words it is difficult to find housing if you do not have a job. Practically all land in Svalbard is owned by the Norwegian state, and it is next to impossible to buy land to build a private house. There are a few private apartments and houses that are sold or let out to inhabitants, but the prices are very high. In general, housing and living expenses in Norway and Svalbard are among the highest in the world."
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Old 02-15-2014, 12:17 PM
 
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I believe, at the moment, it is Svalbard (Spitzbergen). technically Norwegian territory. Just get off the boat and do what you please, stay as long as you like.
Entry and residence - Sysselmannen

When I first moved to Paraguay, they just stamped my passport at the border and nobody ever said anything about how long I could stay. But that has now changed, and for an American, it requires a $100 single entry visa for a 60-day visit (same as Bolivia and Chile). All other nationalities, no visa required. It's called a "reciprocity penalty", because of the way the US screws over and rips off Paraguayans (and most other non-European nationalities) who would like to visit the US.
Just as a side note, the OP wants to move because the US is becoming too liberal for his liking. So, anywhere in Europe is out of the question. I would suggest the Middle East Gulf states. Very highly conservative, getting up there in development. Too many Mooslims though, don't think OP would appreciate that
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Old 02-15-2014, 12:24 PM
 
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I would suggest the Middle East Gulf states. Very highly conservative, getting up there in development. Too many Mooslims though, don't think OP would appreciate that
UAE and Qatar are very conservative but too expensive. It is also hot as hell in the summer.
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