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Old 02-18-2014, 04:40 AM
 
Location: Rockville, MD
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Which of the two cities feels more South Asian between Toronto and London?

The numbers indicate that Greater Toronto is SLIGHTLY more proportionally South Asian. However, the South Asians in the GTA tend to live in the more suburban areas such as Scarborough and Etobicoke within the city, as well as Brampton and Mississauga in the suburbs. The South Asians in Greater London tend to live in more heavily urban areas connected to the underground, such as Southall, Newham and Tower Hamlets.

I'd personally say it's London- due to the fact that the South Asian retail areas are more concentrated and more pedestrian-friendly, and they're less mixed with other retail.
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Old 02-18-2014, 05:18 AM
 
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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South Birmingham was the most South Asian place outside the sub-continent I've been to, maybe a long with Little India in Sing and KL.
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Old 02-18-2014, 06:01 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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The South Asians in Greater London tend to live in more heavily urban areas connected to the underground, such as Southall, Newham and Tower Hamlets.

I'd personally say it's London- due to the fact that the South Asian retail areas are more concentrated and more pedestrian-friendly, and they're less mixed with other retail.

It could also be that London has a FAR more vast and extensive underground than Toronto's... Simply put - in the Greater Toronto Area, proportionally, people get around by car far more than a city like London.

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Old 02-19-2014, 04:54 AM
 
Location: Rockville, MD
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The South Asians in Greater London tend to live in more heavily urban areas connected to the underground, such as Southall, Newham and Tower Hamlets.

I'd personally say it's London- due to the fact that the South Asian retail areas are more concentrated and more pedestrian-friendly, and they're less mixed with other retail.


It could also be that London has a FAR more vast and extensive underground than Toronto's... Simply put - in the Greater Toronto Area, proportionally, people get around by car far more than a city like London.
Ya, that's definitely true. Do you feel that that makes the experience of ethnic areas in London more "intense"? Say compare the area around Hurontario and Dundas in Mississauga to South Rd/The Broadway in Southall (London Borough of Ealing).

What I find interesting about the GTA is that even though South Asians are the largest minority, even within the city limits, they mostly live in areas without a ton of transit infrastructure (Etobicoke, Scarborough), so when riding YUS or Bloor-Danforth subway lines, they aren't nearly as visible as the Chinese (who have sizeable populations downtown and along the Yonge corridor in North York).
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Old 02-19-2014, 07:12 AM
 
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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Ya, that's definitely true. Do you feel that that makes the experience of ethnic areas in London more "intense"? Say compare the area around Hurontario and Dundas in Mississauga to South Rd/The Broadway in Southall (London Borough of Ealing).

What I find interesting about the GTA is that even though South Asians are the largest minority, even within the city limits, they mostly live in areas without a ton of transit infrastructure (Etobicoke, Scarborough), so when riding YUS or Bloor-Danforth subway lines, they aren't nearly as visible as the Chinese (who have sizeable populations downtown and along the Yonge corridor in North York).
I went to Brick Lane in the Tower Hamlets and it didn't seem AS S.Asian dominated as parts of Birmingham, which seemed almost COMPLETELY Pakistani actually. Every single shop and person walking around for several kilometres was of South Asian, mostly Pakistani, ancestry.
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Old 02-19-2014, 07:38 AM
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South Birmingham was the most South Asian place outside the sub-continent I've been to, maybe a long with Little India in Sing and KL.
Well you haven't been to Bramadesh...oops, I mean Brampton.
500,000 suburb of Toronto, mostly south Asian.
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Old 02-19-2014, 07:48 AM
 
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Well you haven't been to Bramadesh...oops, I mean Brampton.
500,000 suburb of Toronto, mostly south Asian.
Balti Triangle: Birmingham puts curry on the curriculum to get children ready for real jobs | Mail Online

The photo of the streetscape is what you'll see for quite a few miles if you drive into Birmingham along Stratford Road. I doubt you could find a place in the western world more South Asian, it's basically ALL desi.
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Old 02-19-2014, 11:41 AM
 
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I'm currently staying at a relative's in Greenford, Ealing and Southall isn't too far away and I can confirm that the area is very South Asian especially Southall. The whole high street feels like a different culture.

Parts of East London is very south asian, too.

Greater London

-East ham
-Bethnel green
-Bow
-Hounslow
-Southall
-Greenford
-Brent
-Tooting

Birmingham

-Alum rock
-Balsall heath
-Small heath
-Handsworth

Leeds

-Harehills
-Bradford

For other parts of the UK Leicester, parts of Birmingham, parts of Greater Manchester, Leeds and Bradford are all very south Asian which is one of the reasons why curry-like dishes is so popular in Britain.

I'm sure Toronto doesn't even come close.
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Old 02-19-2014, 03:22 PM
 
Location: Vancouver
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I'm currently staying at a relative's in Greenford, Ealing and Southall isn't too far away and I can confirm that the area is very South Asian especially Southall. The whole high street feels like a different culture.

Parts of East London is very south asian, too.

Greater London

-East ham
-Bethnel green
-Bow
-Hounslow
-Southall
-Greenford
-Brent
-Tooting

Birmingham

-Alum rock
-Balsall heath
-Small heath
-Handsworth

Leeds

-Harehills
-Bradford

For other parts of the UK Leicester, parts of Birmingham, parts of Greater Manchester, Leeds and Bradford are all very south Asian which is one of the reasons why curry-like dishes is so popular in Britain.

I'm sure Toronto doesn't even come close.
Sticking to Toronto and London.
Have you been to Toronto?
Wiki states ( I know ) "Metropolitan areas with large South Asian communities include the Toronto (834,000)"

London stats from again Wiki ( it's only fair LOL )

"As of the 2011 Census, the total Asian population of London stood at 1,511,546"

and that includes 124,000 Chinese, which the Canadian stats do not.

Given the difference size in the cities, I would say Toronto definitely comes close.

PS….Curries are also extremely popular in Toronto

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Old 02-19-2014, 05:38 PM
 
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Well you haven't been to Bramadesh...oops, I mean Brampton.
500,000 suburb of Toronto, mostly south Asian.
Brampton is only 30 per cent Indian. I'd hardly say it's "mostly" Indian. There are all types of people in Brampton. It's actually a fairly diverse place.
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