Which feels more East Asian- Toronto or Sydney? (vs., shopping mall)

[bballniket]

Comparing the two areas- Greater Toronto and Sydney, which feels more East Asian? (incl. Chinese, Korean, Japanese and Filipino).

I'd say Toronto, by a fair amount, but Sydney's Chinese suburbs have more concentrated retail strips from what I've seen via Street View.

Also, the numbers point to Toronto having a higher proportion of East Asian immigrants.

[The Postman]

I haven't been to Toronto but I'm sure it feels very Asian. Sydney though feels very Asian, go to the city and it often seems most people walking around are Asian. There are large Chinese and Vietnamese communities, but also from other communities. Sydney's Chinatown can often feel like Hong Kong, while Cabramatta feels like Saigon.

[remotepr9]

Filipino are not East Asians, they are Southeast Asians.
For both Canada and Australia, Chinese far outnumbered other asians.

[fusion2]

Originally Posted by bballniket

Comparing the two areas- Greater Toronto and Sydney, which feels more East Asian? (incl. Chinese, Korean, Japanese and Filipino).

I'd say Toronto, by a fair amount, but Sydney's Chinese suburbs have more concentrated retail strips from what I've seen via Street View.

Also, the numbers point to Toronto having a higher proportion of East Asian immigrants.

I don't know how anyone can go on Google Street View and come to any meaningful conclusions lol... where in Toronto's suburbs are you looking on google street view anyway? Most people in Toronto's Suburbs drive so they don't need 'concentrated' retail strips they can be dotted all over the place and easily reached. Take a look at the Pacific Mall and look in and around Steeles and Kennedy rds in Markham.. for concentrated Asian (Chinese) retail. I know the Pacific Mall is the largest indoor Asian Shopping Mall in North America.

pacificmall toronto

I don't know if Sydney has an equivalent.. That is not to mention the Chinatowns in DT Toronto which are very prominent and large for any city outside China.

[Acajack]

I am pretty sure Toronto is fairly significantly more East Asian than Sydney. Just the percentage of persons of Chinese origin is double in Toronto (12 vs. 6%).

[The Postman]

Originally Posted by Acajack

I am pretty sure Toronto is fairly significantly more East Asian than Sydney. Just the percentage of persons of Chinese origin is double in Toronto (12 vs. 6%).

Well if you include South-East Asians Sydney has a greater presence, which would add to the Asian total. Lots of Indians and West Asians, especially Lebanese, in Sydney.

[fusion2]

Originally Posted by The Postman

Well if you include South-East Asians Sydney has a greater presence, which would add to the Asian total. Lots of Indians and West Asians, especially Lebanese, in Sydney.

You sure? Toronto has a huge Chinese, South Asian and Flip population. I think you'd get more breadth of East/SE Asians (More Thai's, Indonesians, Malaysians) in Sydney but in terms of overall relative percentages and absolute numbers for East Asians as a whole, I think it would be in T.O's favour

Demographics of Toronto - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[The Postman]

Originally Posted by fusion2

You sure? Toronto has a huge Chinese, South Asian and Tagalog population. I think you'd get more breadth of East/SE Asians (More Thai's, Indonesians, Malaysians) in Sydney but in terms of overall relative percentages and absolute numbers for East Asians I think it would be in T.O's favour

Demographics of Toronto - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

These percentages are not for the entire Toronto metro. There are no stats for a comparable area in Sydney, only the metro. If you took the inner LGA's of Sydney I think it'd be comparable. Large swathes of Sydney are 50% born overseas, nearly 40% of the metropolitan area was not born in Australia.

I'd like to see similar stats for the GTA/Toronto metro. I don't know what percentage of Sydneysiders of are Asian ancestries, but it would be high.

I haven't been to Toronto so can't compare by subjective feel, but Sydney feels very Asian (maybe too so, without sounding racist lol) in many parts.

[fusion2]

Originally Posted by The Postman

These percentages are not for the entire Toronto metro. There are no stats for a comparable area in Sydney, only the metro. If you took the inner LGA's of Sydney I think it'd be comparable. Large swathes of Sydney are 50% born overseas, nearly 40% of the metropolitan area was not born in Australia.

I'd like to see similar stats for the GTA/Toronto metro. I don't know what percentage of Sydneysiders of are Asian ancestries, but it would be high.

I haven't been to Toronto so can't compare by subjective feel, but Sydney feels very Asian (maybe too so, without sounding racist lol) in many parts.

There's a table in this link that breaks down percentages based on mother tongue for the Toronto CMA - which would be the most equivalent comparison to Sydney you are referring to. Its from 2006 so the percentages are probably about the same for the 2011 census.

Greater Toronto Area - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I still think this tips in T.O's favour.

[danielsa1775]

Its possible best to Use the ethnic origins data, down the bottom of the wiki article it reports the ethnic origins of the Toronto CMA. With the top east Asian ethnic origins been.

Chinese 10.8%
Filipino - 4.5%
They are the only two east Asian origins in the top 20

For the Sydney Metro Area
Chinese 6.5%
Vietnamese - 1.6%
Filipino - 1.5%
Are the only east Asian ancestry in the top 20.

On that Toronto would be far more east Asian not matter how you look at it or where you cut the boundaries off at east Asia.