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View Poll Results: Are they comparable?
The bicoastal US is more socially liberal than all those other countries. 10 27.78%
The bicoastal US is less socially liberal than all those countries. 10 27.78%
About the same. Not much difference. 13 36.11%
Can't compare. 3 8.33%
Voters: 36. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 02-21-2014, 06:20 PM
 
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Together, the East and West coasts of the US (though the west coast more so) has a reputation for being socially liberal. By American standards, Canada, Australia and New Zealand are also socially liberal.

I was wondering, if you compared just those coastal parts of the United States to those other countries, which are smaller in population, would they be comparable in how liberal they are?

Would the ways in how those other Anglo countries differ (religiosity less so, support more government funding for health care, welfare and education, more gun control etc.) be far less different if you compared them to the bicoastal US?
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Old 02-21-2014, 06:25 PM
 
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Together, the East and West coasts of the US (though the west coast more so) has a reputation for being socially liberal. By American standards, Canada, Australia and New Zealand are also socially liberal.
Australia certainly has its conservative elements, who can be very vocal politically when they want to be..
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Old 02-21-2014, 06:53 PM
 
Location: Sydney
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Australia certainly has its conservative elements, who can be very vocal politically when they want to be..
Ahem, Queensland.







And even in Western Sydney you can find some batty conservatives.



And everyone remembers Wilson Tuckey...




However, Australia is generally more urban than America, that is to say a higher percentage of the population lives in the big cities. What this means is that politics is more to the left, even though there is a strong right wing whacko element.

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Old 02-21-2014, 07:16 PM
 
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However, Australia is generally more urban than America, that is to say a higher percentage of the population lives in the big cities. What this means is that politics is more to the left, even though there is a strong right wing whacko element.
Don't forget groups like the NSW Shooters Party, constantly chipping away and the "evil" of gun control..

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Old 02-21-2014, 08:19 PM
 
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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I feel the coasts of the US are possibly more PROGRESSIVE than Australia in many ways, I guess things like gay marriage. I actually think overall Australia is similar to the US as a whole in how liberal/conservative it is. Some laws are more lenient, like prostitution, but until recently laws regarding abortion or something were tougher, well even now they are.
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Old 02-21-2014, 08:27 PM
 
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I feel the coasts of the US are possibly more PROGRESSIVE than Australia in many ways, I guess things like gay marriage.
No, see there's a legal difference here.
Now the Australian constitution lists marriage as a power of parliament. Where the US constitution does not list marriage as a power of congress.
The conservative John Howard government took advantage of this in 2004, and introduced a bill that amended the marriage act to defining marriage as being between a man and a women. What this means is that Australian states are unable to legalise marriage without contradicting a federal law.
That being said though, both Tasmania and New South Wales have attempted to legalise gay marriage. However it did not pass state parliament, the main reason being that members did not want to vote for a bill that would force a court case between the state and the federal government. It is a lot more easy for US states to legalise gay marriage, and I'm sure George Bush would have tried a similar law had the US constitution permitted it. But he requires a whole constitutional amendment.

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Some laws are more lenient, like prostitution, but until recently laws regarding abortion or something were tougher, well even now they are.
Yep. In Australia, prostitution and gambling are perfectly legal. But abortion and gay marriage? Not so much. Well you need to be able to prove an economic or psychological inability to raise a child. Which is usually pretty easy if you're a single mum.
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In some measures some of "bicoastal US" may come out to be more liberal. Opinion polls in the UK suggest roughly half would support reinstating the death penalty:

BBC News - Does the public want the death penalty brought back?

In Massachusetts, the majority of residents are against the death penalty for the Boston Marathon bomber. If that can't evoke support for the death penalty what could?

Marathon bombing suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev to face death penalty, prosecutors say - Metro - The Boston Globe
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Old 03-30-2014, 02:11 PM
 
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I dont feel like Australia and NZ are liberal at all.

Canada? I mean, I guess some parts are.
UK and Europe are def more liberal than all combined.

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Old 03-30-2014, 02:20 PM
 
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The East Coast also includes the Southeast, so no.
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Old 03-30-2014, 02:22 PM
 
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The East Coast also includes the Southeast, so no.
Miami is pretty liberal tho, brah.
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