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Old 12-06-2007, 02:37 PM
 
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Cleveland, OH...Camden, NJ and Newark NJ are ndeed violent areas as well
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Old 12-07-2007, 08:15 PM
 
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Palermo used to be really violent

But yeh I go with Los Angeles CA

The gangs are having a race war there, does not get much worse than that.
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Old 12-08-2007, 01:28 AM
 
Location: Earth
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Palermo used to be really violent

But yeh I go with Los Angeles CA

The gangs are having a race war there, does not get much worse than that.
There are quite a few US cities more violent than LA including other California cities. Familiar with Oakland at all?

As for Palermo, it does have pretty severe problems with petty theft, pickpocketing, and bag-snatching etc. but
low violent crime.
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Old 12-08-2007, 10:39 AM
 
Location: St. Louis, MO
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St. Louis gets a bad rap from the "most dangerous" cities tripe published yearly (for publicity..not by law enforcement).

There's a reason, however....

St. Louis is one of the few independent cities in the United States. That means that the city is not actually part of any county..the city is its own independent entity. The metropolitan area of STL has around 3M peope, but the small "city" core, which is comprised of the inner city, only has about 280,000. St. Louis's crime statistics, then, are only based on crime stats in the inner city...Not a larger metropolitan areas, as most "traditionally" districted cities are.

If you judged every city on its inner core, your crime stats will be raised. I'm not saying STL would be considered "Safe"...but i think that little known fact skews the statistics a little bit.
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Old 12-09-2007, 03:50 PM
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Location: Oakland
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There are quite a few US cities more violent than LA including other California cities. Familiar with Oakland at all?

As for Palermo, it does have pretty severe problems with petty theft, pickpocketing, and bag-snatching etc. but
low violent crime.
San Francisco has a higher violent crime rate than LA too. Of course LA has it's gangs, but the overall level of violence there has gone down drastically since the 90's and 80's.
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Old 12-09-2007, 09:25 PM
 
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San Francisco has a higher violent crime rate than LA too. Of course LA has it's gangs, but the overall level of violence there has gone down drastically since the 90's and 80's.
I know very well about SF having just surpassed LA for violent crime for probably the first time since LA became a big city. People are decieved by the level of violent crime in SF because its a prettier and friendlier city than LA.

However, Oakland is scarier than both LA and SF ....as are Richmond and San Bernardino.
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Old 12-09-2007, 10:21 PM
 
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I know very well about SF having just surpassed LA for violent crime for probably the first time since LA became a big city. People are decieved by the level of violent crime in SF because its a prettier and friendlier city than LA.

However, Oakland is scarier than both LA and SF ....as are Richmond and San Bernardino.
I am not surprised to hear of California's violent cities(and now I have lost my appetite for ever relocating to LA), but no one has mentioned Atlanta or New Orleans, 2 very violent cities.
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Old 12-10-2007, 03:42 PM
 
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To handle the secondary dispute about which cities are the most dangerous in the U.S. go here Safest and Most Dangerous U.S. Cities, 2007 — Infoplease.com
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Old 12-13-2007, 07:15 PM
 
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why are several american cities so violent?

why is scotland and the UK so violent? IRA? weather?

and does anyone have a link to an article listing the most violent cities in the developed world?
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Old 12-13-2007, 10:46 PM
 
Location: St. Louis, MO
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why are several american cities so violent?

why is scotland and the UK so violent? IRA? weather?

and does anyone have a link to an article listing the most violent cities in the developed world?
Wherever you have multiple, often disparate, cultures/classes living in close proximity to one another, you're going to have crime and violence.
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