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View Poll Results: Who wins this?
Australia 20 44.44%
California 24 53.33%
Equal 1 2.22%
Voters: 45. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-30-2020, 11:13 PM
 
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I think it’s California. People of Asian descent are about of the same proportion of the population as in Australia, but California is substantially more populous and so generally have larger communities. On top of that, California is so diverse that there’s not a particularly ethnicity that’s particularly more representative of the culture, there are more third or more generation immigrants in California than in Australia, and there are more prominent business and political leaders of Asian descent in California. Except for the upper middle class and up insular suburban ethnoburb enclaves, the Asian American population generally seems more integrated in California, especially in the city and in mainstream corporate America, but then again, I only have family in Brisbane and Sydney to compare to.

The Asian community in California also backwashes or even exports Asian American things from California to elsewhere including back to the home country like certain styles of Korean bbq from the Los Angeles area back to Korea, integrating avocado as an ingredient into sushi which occurred in California and has been slowly creeping into more places in Japan, and the “chinese” fortune cookie from California via Japan that became popular in Chinese restaurants in the US and then were exported out to Chinese restaurants in many other countries.

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Old 03-31-2020, 01:57 AM
 
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California. SF has long had a large Chinese population. LA has a very large mix . I agree city centres in many Australian cities appear to have large concentrations, but many are tourists and/or overseas students that reside in inner city.
Saying that, due to Australian immigration preferences, certain Asian ethnic groups, won't be long before on a per capita term, outdo CA. If not already so in certain areas.
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Old 03-31-2020, 03:56 AM
 
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California win
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Old 03-31-2020, 06:44 AM
 
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It was hard to say so I went with equal. The Australian cities, particularly Sydney and Melbourne, have about the same amount of diversity as LA and SF.
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Old 03-31-2020, 07:44 AM
 
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Who has the larger or proportionally larger Asian diaspora is irrelevant in my opinion.

The real issue is whether the majority non-Asian population has adopted some or many of the Asian cultural traits (which are by the way too varied and distinct depending on every Asan nation). This is what I understand for ‘influence’.

If there are 2 million people among the Chinese and their descendants in California doing Chinese stuff, it is both expected and irrelevant. It is the Chinese stuff that the other +35 million non-Chinese people do what defines the degree of influence that the place has from China.
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Old 03-31-2020, 08:48 AM
 
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Who has the larger or proportionally larger Asian diaspora is irrelevant in my opinion.

The real issue is whether the majority non-Asian population has adopted some or many of the Asian cultural traits (which are by the way too varied and distinct depending on every Asan nation). This is what I understand for ‘influence’.

If there are 2 million people among the Chinese and their descendants in California doing Chinese stuff, it is both expected and irrelevant. It is the Chinese stuff that the other +35 million non-Chinese people do what defines the degree of influence that the place has from China.
Yea, and that's part of why I went with California. There's a lot of interesting combinations of things that come out of California. I'm pretty focused on food, so I mentioned such in particular. There's also things like Korean-Mexican fusion dishes that are decently popular and have also been exported elsewhere.
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Old 04-03-2020, 02:07 PM
 
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Don’t think it’s the right time to discuss Asian culture.
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Old 04-03-2020, 02:32 PM
 
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I wonder how Canada compares to these two. The Asian community here is massive, they overwhelmingly over shadow all other visible minorities here.
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Old 04-03-2020, 06:10 PM
 
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Those saying California haven't been to Australia. East Asian countries are in the top 5 foreign born countries list.

California has more Latino/Hispanic influence.
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Old 04-05-2020, 07:44 AM
 
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Those saying California haven't been to Australia. East Asian countries are in the top 5 foreign born countries list.

California has more Latino/Hispanic influence.
I’ve been to both. California having a lot of Latino/Hispanic influence and a fair bit of African-American influence does not mean that California has less Asian influence than California does. Asian influences intermingle with thr Hispanic and African-American communities, too. California has about as proportionally as high an Asian population as Australia does, but is larger in raw numbers.
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