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Old 04-05-2014, 12:04 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, QC, Canada
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I think Canada would be happy if Quebec leave, but I don't think Quebec will leave because they need all the anglo Canadian money that they get from the rest of anglo Canada
No way. Only angry uneducated Ontarians seem to want Quebec to **** off. I would be really bummed about a Quebec departure. It's by far the most interesting province in terms of history and having unique culture, and surely a huge loss for Canada.
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Old 04-05-2014, 12:12 PM
 
Location: Springfield, Ohio
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Kurdistan is an interesting situation, as it involves at least three different countries, and if it did indeed happen, would likely only be in one (certainly not Turkey, the most stable and able to quell any insurrection). They currently are being pretty much left to themselves in northern Iraq, but Al Queda has targeted them in northern Syria (using the chaos of the war for cover) due to their views on male/female equality.
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Old 04-05-2014, 03:46 PM
 
Location: Toronto, ON
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I would assume that most countries in which healthy sovereignty movements exist already have conceded much control to appease the population. Places like Quebec and Scotland come to mind as areas where the people literally have it as good as they will ever get in their present situation, better than people in the rest of the country overall. This is where the resentment comes in.

In both cases, it would spell economic disaster if they ever succeeded in achieving statehood because all those goodies they are used to getting would be sliced away in a possible austerity move. Taxes would skyrocket because the revenue base is now a fraction of what it was.
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Old 04-05-2014, 06:54 PM
 
Location: San Diego, California Republic
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I would assume that most countries in which healthy sovereignty movements exist already have conceded much control to appease the population. Places like Quebec and Scotland come to mind as areas where the people literally have it as good as they will ever get in their present situation, better than people in the rest of the country overall. This is where the resentment comes in.

In both cases, it would spell economic disaster if they ever succeeded in achieving statehood because all those goodies they are used to getting would be sliced away in a possible austerity move. Taxes would skyrocket because the revenue base is now a fraction of what it was.
Depends on the situation and territory. in California's case, 8 billion dollars paid in federal taxes is never returned here as CA is a donor state like several others. If it became a nation, that 8 billion would stay here.
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Old 04-05-2014, 07:27 PM
 
Location: St. Louis
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None of the 50 states are going to secede, and, even if they wanted to, Washington would never allow them to. That was one of the points of the Civil War; the Union must be maintained.
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Old 04-05-2014, 09:32 PM
 
Location: San Diego, California Republic
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None of the 50 states are going to secede, and, even if they wanted to, Washington would never allow them to. That was one of the points of the Civil War; the Union must be maintained.
The civil war solved only the issues of the civil war. Washington could not use force to stop it because if the civil war did decide anything as so many like to claim, it's that the federal government can no longer send the military into a state's territory. the only exception to the is if a state has failed to protect the constitutional rights of it's citizens. the federal government has no authority otherwise over other state affairs.
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Old 04-06-2014, 02:22 PM
 
Location: San Francisco
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I believe California and Texas were the only states to be briefly republics at one point.
Vermont was too.

Vermont Republic - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 04-06-2014, 02:28 PM
 
Location: Vancouver
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I think Canada would be happy if Quebec leave, but I don't think Quebec will leave because they need all the anglo Canadian money that they get from the rest of anglo Canada
Wrong. During the last referendum in 1995, people all over Canada agreed with a popular bumper sticker that read
" My Canada includes Quebec ".
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