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Old 04-23-2014, 07:35 AM
 
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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The approx. 50% foreign born for Toronto generally is true of both the city proper or "inner Toronto" which has 2.5 million people, and for the suburban areas outside of it which hold as many if not more people.

There are also large suburban municipalities where 50-60% of the population is foreign-born.

These include Mississauga (700,000) and Markham (300,000) near Toronto. Brampton (500,000) is just under 50%.

And also Richmond (200,000) near Vancouver.
Ah yes...yes both are probably among the most international cities/most migrants as % of population.
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Old 04-23-2014, 07:42 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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Ah yes...yes both are probably among the most international cities/most migrants as % of population.
Miami is pretty high too: 60% foreign born or so.
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Old 04-23-2014, 07:44 AM
 
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Miami is pretty high too: 60% foreign born or so.
Well yes, Miami is obviously known for it's high Latino population.

Toronto is also a lot further from Asia than Australia...I wonder if your immigration policies are more open than ours.
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Old 04-23-2014, 07:53 AM
 
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Well yes, Miami is obviously known for it's high Latino population.

Toronto is also a lot further from Asia than Australia...I wonder if your immigration policies are more open than ours.
Canada accepts 250,000 immigrants a year and Australia seems to accept around 150-160,000. Relative to population this does not seem to be that much out of whack.

It could be that immigrants to Australia tend to spread out more than in Canada and that here they concentrate more in certain cities or areas.
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Old 04-23-2014, 08:09 AM
 
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That's interesting. So immigration from France has actually picked up. It seems rare for immigration from rich countries to other rich countries to rise in contemporary times.
Just pull up the visa numbers to the US on travel.state.gov:>)
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Old 04-23-2014, 08:10 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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The city of Victoria on Vancouver Island in British Columbia is apparently home to the largest British-born population in Canada, but while this may be true in percentage I suspect there is a bit of legend involved as well. It's often said to be the most British city outside of the UK as well.

The affluent Toronto suburbs of Oakville and Burlington at the western end of Lake Ontario are known for large concentrations of British people as well.

More recently, the British people who have been moving to Canada are said to be favouring the booming province of Alberta and the city of Calgary in particular.
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Old 04-23-2014, 08:47 AM
 
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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Canada accepts 250,000 immigrants a year and Australia seems to accept around 150-160,000. Relative to population this does not seem to be that much out of whack.

It could be that immigrants to Australia tend to spread out more than in Canada and that here they concentrate more in certain cities or areas.
Yes they seem similar. I think the percentage of overseas born is actually slightly higher in Australia than Canada. All the big capital cities have a lot of immigrants, Sydney, Melbourne, Perth, Brisbane, Adelaide. I also notice however that regional centres are becoming more multicultural too. Not too long ago it was rare to see non-whites in Bunbury, a city of 60,000 140 km south of Perth but now you see Asians, Maoris.etc in quite large numbers.

I feel though that our population is too concentrated in the capital cities. The infrastructure etc is getting strained. I think it adds to the impression we're being 'swamped with immigrants.' Like go to the CBD of any of the 5 cities I mention and it's at least 50% Asians walking around. Granted many are students, here temporarily for work etc not immigrants.
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Old 04-23-2014, 08:49 AM
 
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The city of Victoria on Vancouver Island in British Columbia is apparently home to the largest British-born population in Canada, but while this may be true in percentage I suspect there is a bit of legend involved as well. It's often said to be the most British city outside of the UK as well.

The affluent Toronto suburbs of Oakville and Burlington at the western end of Lake Ontario are known for large concentrations of British people as well.

More recently, the British people who have been moving to Canada are said to be favouring the booming province of Alberta and the city of Calgary in particular.
I think that refers also to the look of the place too.
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Old 04-23-2014, 08:51 AM
 
Location: Leeds, UK
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One of the significant things about immigration to Aus from the UK is the number who return home within a short time after arrival. Roughly one third return to the UK within a few years.

There have been a number of studies that have looked at the phenomenon, some more academic and sympathetic than others. The most common issues identified seem to centre on unrealistic or uninformed expectations and culture shock.
Yup, and the number who are returning is increasing. Some people expect Australia to be like the UK, but sunny. It's actually pretty irresponsible of people to pick up their entire lives, possibly uprooting children, taking them thousands of miles away, only to be disappointed with what they discover, and returning within a few years, or even months.

Still, as people have mentioned, the sunny, warm climate of Australia is the biggest appeal, and most people emigrating there will probably be employed in some high-demand sector that pays more than over here - for example, energy and mining - I'm sure many people choose to base themselves in Perth (can't think of why else Perth would be preferred - doesn't seem as nice as Sydney or Melbourne, but I obviously cannot speak from experience).

Canada is very cold in the winter compared to the UK, with only Vancouver being similar. Would a Brit, who has lived his/her entire life in a cloudy country with chilly, damp winters, choose Calgary - sunnier, but considerably colder and volatile, or Perth - warm and sunny?

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Old 04-23-2014, 08:56 AM
 
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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Yup, and the number who are returning is increasing. Some people expect Australia to be like the UK, but sunny. It's actually pretty irresponsible of people to pick up their entire lives, possibly uprooting children, taking them thousands of miles away, only to be disappointed with what they discover, and returning within a few years, or even months.

Still, as people have mentioned, the sunny, warm climate of Australia is the biggest appeal, and most people emigrating there will probably be employed in some high-demand sector that pays more than over here, so that's another incentive - for example, energy and mining - I'm sure many people choose to base themselves in Perth.

Canada is very cold in the winter compared to the UK, with only Vancouver being similar.
Considering say Toronto's climate it's amazing it's still so popular, but I guess it compensates in other areas...I wonder if people who immigrate to Canada tend to be cold lovers vs those who come here? lol

I know I could never thrive in Toronto with it's winters. NYC is harsh enough for our standards.
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