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View Poll Results: Most LIBERAL country in the world?
USA 3 4.92%
Canada 5 8.20%
UK 2 3.28%
France 1 1.64%
Brazil 2 3.28%
Switzerland 0 0%
Australia 0 0%
Italy 0 0%
Thailand 0 0%
Norway 4 6.56%
Czech Republic 0 0%
Greece 1 1.64%
Netherlands 22 36.07%
Spain 0 0%
Russia 3 4.92%
Hungary 0 0%
Mexico 0 0%
Germany 0 0%
New Zealand 1 1.64%
Ukraine 0 0%
Belgium 0 0%
China 2 3.28%
Sweden 13 21.31%
Japan 0 0%
Other 2 3.28%
Voters: 61. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 07-29-2014, 09:46 AM
 
Location: London, UK
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Define liberal.

Sweden is definitely NOT very liberal in many aspects. Alcohol and gambling monopolies for a start.
Wow really?
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These countries in Europe (NL, Belgium, ...) are maybe socially liberal but they are not racial/immigrant tolerant at all.
Agreed
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Old 07-29-2014, 10:35 AM
 
Location: Eindhoven, Netherlands
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These countries in Europe (NL, Belgium, ...) are maybe socially liberal but they are not racial/immigrant tolerant at all.
Explain
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Old 07-29-2014, 10:51 AM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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These countries in Europe (NL, Belgium, ...) are maybe socially liberal but they are not racial/immigrant tolerant at all.
That is what liberal has come to mean for the most part nowadays. Even here in the United States, the places that are famous for being the "most" liberal are usually mostly white.

People still like to pay lip service about racial tolerance and diversity though, as long as it's not too much in their backyards. Out of sight out of mind is the key.
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Old 07-29-2014, 12:51 PM
 
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Lived in Belgium and now US/Canada, there's way more racism over there, I was amazed to see minorities at high positions in companies, on TV etc, you don't see that in Europe because there's lot of discrimination and they are blaming other races (arabs,blacks,east European immigrants,...) for everything.
The biggest problem is that most are in denial of that intolerance, so it cannot be fixed ... far right parties rising in lot of countries even NL which is supposed to be a tolerance heaven, sorry it is not at all.
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Old 07-29-2014, 01:21 PM
 
Location: Eindhoven, Netherlands
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Lived in Belgium and now US/Canada, there's way more racism over there, I was amazed to see minorities at high positions in companies, on TV etc, you don't see that in Europe because there's lot of discrimination and they are blaming other races (arabs,blacks,east European immigrants,...) for everything.
The biggest problem is that most are in denial of that intolerance, so it cannot be fixed ...

If the Dutch and Belgians were so racist why do they take black and mixed players to the most important football tournament in the world?

FIFA World Cup 2014 Squads...

Dutch National Football Team:
14 White
6 Black
3 Mixed

Belgian National Football Team:
14 White
2 Black
7 Mixed
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Old 07-29-2014, 03:41 PM
 
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If the Dutch and Belgians were so racist why do they take black and mixed players to the most important football tournament in the world?

FIFA World Cup 2014 Squads...

Dutch National Football Team:
14 White
6 Black
3 Mixed

Belgian National Football Team:
14 White
2 Black
7 Mixed
Because they are winning ... it's irrelevant for me, i'm talking about the everyday life of middle class people.
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Old 08-01-2014, 02:55 AM
 
Location: Australia
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France or England.
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Old 08-01-2014, 03:19 AM
 
Location: Eindhoven, Netherlands
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France or England.
Maybe in the 1800's, today both are barely in the top 15 most liberal countries in the world.
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Old 08-03-2014, 08:30 AM
 
Location: Sydney, Australia
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Sweden, Norway, Iceland, Finland, Denmark....

They're like the 'top models' when it comes to countries. They're so liberal that even murder would be smiled at.
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Old 08-03-2014, 02:59 PM
 
Location: San Diego, California Republic
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Fortunately, we have a moat to protect us from you people, and our southern border is short and could easily be defended.
But let them keep being distracted. While they target SF our evil liberal agenda will continue to infect the nation from Washington State, Seattle in particular but shhhhh, they can't know that.
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