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Lived in Belgium and now US/Canada, there's way more racism over there, I was amazed to see minorities at high positions in companies, on TV etc, you don't see that in Europe because there's lot of discrimination and they are blaming other races (arabs,blacks,east European immigrants,...) for everything.
The biggest problem is that most are in denial of that intolerance, so it cannot be fixed ... far right parties rising in lot of countries even NL which is supposed to be a tolerance heaven, sorry it is not at all.
If the Dutch and Belgians were so racist why do they take black and mixed players to the most important football tournament in the world?
FIFA World Cup 2014 Squads...
Dutch National Football Team:
14 White
6 Black
3 Mixed
Belgian National Football Team:
14 White
2 Black
7 Mixed
I wouldn't use that as an indication of racial tolerance. At that point, getting the best players to win the game takes precedent. Even in the US, the NFL and other sports are well known for having racist owners. That just recently happened here in Basketball. Best better believe no matter how anyone feels about a race, if there is money involved in having them, they will most definitely have them.
They're like the 'top models' when it comes to countries. They're so liberal that even murder would be smiled at.
Maybe not smiled at but I believe that Norwegian guy who went on that shooting spree got something like 11 years! In the US, if he was not executed, he would have been given something like 4 life sentences or like 800 years in prison ensuring there was no way he would get out. Norway is a forgiving country with a mass shooter getting 11 years. This would be unheard of in many other countries.
I wouldn't use that as an indication of racial tolerance. At that point, getting the best players to win the game takes precedent. Even in the US, the NFL and other sports are well known for having racist owners. That just recently happened here in Basketball. Best better believe no matter how anyone feels about a race, if there is money involved in having them, they will most definitely have them.
World Cup of Football is more about national pride than money. The real money is made at club football (Real Madrid, Bayern Munich, Chelsea, Manchester City etc.) not international football.
1 racist comment doesn't make one a racist, i don't believe Clippers manager Donald Sterling is really a racist.
Maybe in the 1800's, today both are barely in the top 15 most liberal countries in the world.
With all due respect, Davy - you really do come out with some utter rubbish at times. This post is similar to the kind of asinine garbage would post - trying to rank countries according to poorly defined words - completely arbitrary and not at all objective.
I really do despair at this forum at times. Interesting discussion doesn't exist - instead we get the idiocy presented in a thread like this (most liberal, most isolated, most anti-American or such nonsense).
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Maybe not smiled at but I believe that Norwegian guy who went on that shooting spree got something like 11 years! In the US, if he was not executed, he would have been given something like 4 life sentences or like 800 years in prison ensuring there was no way he would get out. Norway is a forgiving country with a mass shooter getting 11 years. This would be unheard of in many other countries.
Those sentences are usually extended. Don't expect Anders Breivik to be walking to the streets of Oslo in the near future.
World Cup of Football is more about national pride than money. The real money is made at club football (Real Madrid, Bayern Munich, Chelsea, Manchester City etc.) not international football.
1 racist comment doesn't make one a racist, i don't believe Clippers manager Donald Sterling is really a racist.
Well then there you go, that settles it
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With all due respect, Davy - you really do come out with some utter rubbish at times..
Maybe not smiled at but I believe that Norwegian guy who went on that shooting spree got something like 11 years! In the US, if he was not executed, he would have been given something like 4 life sentences or like 800 years in prison ensuring there was no way he would get out. Norway is a forgiving country with a mass shooter getting 11 years. This would be unheard of in many other countries.
BS. The max sentence in prison in Norway is 21 years, but Anders Breivik will never walk on the streets again. After he has served his sentence, he will be sent to protective custody in a mental asylum for the rest of his life. He has multiple bounties on his head, and if he were to walk out of the prison, there would be hundreds of Norwegians with guns and knives waiting for him. Maybe thousands, or a hundred thousand. Nobody will forgive and forget that person. Ever.
With all due respect, Davy - you really do come out with some utter rubbish at times. This post is similar to the kind of asinine garbage would post - trying to rank countries according to poorly defined words - completely arbitrary and not at all objective.
I don't see how it is rubbish, France and England were very liberal in the 1800's compared to other countries in Europe but roles have changed, just accept that your country is not as liberal as the Netherlands or Scandinavian countries, no big deal you will get there eventually
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