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if there are no signs and I don't know they are there how could I use one to help someone (I have BLS and ALS training)
Without knowing their location they are useless to the public in general.
First of all, if you are BLS certified, then you know the first and most important things to do when you find a pulseless/apneic person is to start cpr immediately and then tell someone else to call 911. The people who work at the facility will fetch the AED.
I doubt they are going to leave $3000 tiny portable pieces of equipment lying around where people can walk off with them OR be willing to incur the liability of letting YOU use it (vs someone they have there trained).
First of all, if you are BLS certified, then you know the first and most important things to do when you find a pulseless/apneic person is to start cpr immediately and then tell someone else to call 911. The people who work at the facility will fetch the AED.
I doubt they are going to leave $3000 tiny portable pieces of equipment lying around where people can walk off with them OR be willing to incur the liability of letting YOU use it (vs someone they have there trained).
People who feel as you do are going to be the stumbling block in getting them in the community.
So again, anywhere besides France have them everywhere?
They also do not cost $3000 nor would have a liability if a good Samaritan used one. So much wrong info!
What do I know? I just work in emergency services...not flounce around hoping to be some wannabe hero.
Yes, they should be everywhere... And they are in many places. I, too, would like to see more.
Wanna be hero? No you got it all wrong. I have issues that make me much more likely to be in need of one myself. I want to know they are around and people know how to use one if I so need one!
I just read a story of a seemingly healthy man who fell over and died in Oakland, maybe sudden cardiac arrest? Who knows right now.
Maybe where you live there are more of them around, that is why I was asking as in London I NEVER saw them and in California a few maybe at most.
I also know that theft is a big issue in France and these seems to stay put. I think people should have first aid/CPR etc in school. Too many people walking around who have no idea how to even check a pulse.
Wanna be hero? No you got it all wrong. I have issues that make me much more likely to be in need of one myself. I want to know they are around and people know how to use one if I so need one!
I just read a story of a seemingly healthy man who fell over and died in Oakland, maybe sudden cardiac arrest? Who knows right now.
Maybe where you live there are more of them around, that is why I was asking as in London I NEVER saw them and in California a few maybe at most.
I also know that theft is a big issue in France and these seems to stay put. I think people should have first aid/CPR etc in school. Too many people walking around who have no idea how to even check a pulse.
You do know that an AED will not help with every arrest, right?
Prompt, consistent, quality CPR is the one thing guaranteed to help outcome.
Only very specific arrythmias can be addressed with AED.
And I don't know more ways to say to you that just because you don't see them does not mean they are not there.
The availability to "Joe Public" vs trained personnel of the facility has not been shown to impove outcomes.
The likely hood of bringing that person back is pretty slim anyway.
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