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View Poll Results: Least Safest First World Country?
Germany 3 1.57%
Canada 4 2.09%
France 16 8.38%
Italy 8 4.19%
Australia 2 1.05%
Sweden 7 3.66%
USA 128 67.02%
UK 6 3.14%
Spain 7 3.66%
Other (please mention) 10 5.24%
Voters: 191. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-25-2016, 08:00 AM
 
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However, it is highly skewed. 90% of the violent crimes in the U.S. happen in poor black or Hispanic areas, which are very isolated.

Outside of those locations, the U.S. is as safe as anywhere in Europe. Normally, you will never be affected by crime.
Yeah right.
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Old 08-25-2016, 02:50 PM
 
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Rosa Surf , summarizes in 2 words, the previous comments as a simplicity.-
All countries have some more poor and marginal areas.
But they add to I rest of the country to measure country statistics of crime -
In no country of Europe the police acts are as in USA.
Nor they have so many criminals in their jails.-
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Old 08-25-2016, 03:05 PM
 
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It would help if the original poster stipulated what he considers first world or developed countries, at least those of the Western Hemisphere.
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Old 08-25-2016, 03:13 PM
 
Location: the dairyland
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However, it is highly skewed. 90% of the violent crimes in the U.S. happen in poor black or Hispanic areas, which are very isolated.

Outside of those locations, the U.S. is as safe as anywhere in Europe. Normally, you will never be affected by crime.
Even if that is true (not sure) - the majority of crimes in Europe also happen in a few neighborhoods, so if we cherry-pick we need to cherry-pick on both sides of the pond.
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Old 08-25-2016, 11:11 PM
 
Location: Canada
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Even if that is true (not sure) - the majority of crimes in Europe also happen in a few neighborhoods, so if we cherry-pick we need to cherry-pick on both sides of the pond.
Good point. The same can be said for crime in Canada.
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Old 08-26-2016, 01:11 AM
 
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USA of course
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Old 08-26-2016, 01:24 AM
 
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Even if that is true (not sure) - the majority of crimes in Europe also happen in a few neighborhood
That's true for "heavy crimes" (murder, violent assaults...) but for things like small thefts, groping, verbal abuse etc. it happens anywhere anytime. Many people got robbed just next to the Eiffel Tower or Grand Place of Brussels, which are certainly not considered as bad neighborhoods.
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Old 08-26-2016, 05:23 AM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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Even if that is true (not sure) - the majority of crimes in Europe also happen in a few neighborhoods, so if we cherry-pick we need to cherry-pick on both sides of the pond.
The point is that middle-class neighborhoods and suburbs in the U.S. have close to zero crime. They are so safe and pristine that it's almost kind of boring in that way actually.

The only reason that America's crime rate is higher than that of other developed countries is because of the very high violent crime, which is often drug-related, in low-income, ghetto areas. There is really no equivalent to that in Europe or Canada.

Essentially, two different societies that are completely different from one another exist side by side in the U.S.
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Old 08-29-2016, 03:54 PM
 
Location: Katy,Texas
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^^^^
There are equivalents like Whalley, Surrey and North, Winnipeg. Their is also North Marseilles and a few suburbs of Paris but overall the main difference between these hoods and others is they take up like 10% or less of a city/ metropolitan area, or if they are large are nowhere as violent as the U.S. The first one is true for Winnipeg while the second one is true for London. The violent parts of London you can get stabbed, but when you get stabbed your chances of dying in an incident is probably a 1 in 7 chance compared to something like 1 in 3 from a gunshot wound. Also you can always run from a knife, no one can outrun a gun. London has so many hoods but most of them aren't exceedingly dangerous for murder while still being violent places. Many U.S cities will have something like 60% to even 80% of a city being good and 30% to 40% of a metro being hood. The worst Western European city I have ever seen is Marseille and the city is about 25%-35% hood and less than 15% hood in the metro.

These are just observations and are not facts. The knife and gun numbers are from a thread that I did about 2 years ago were someone posted Philadelphia's survival rate of knife vs. gun fatality rate.
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Old 09-01-2016, 11:02 AM
 
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U.S. and England
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