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Old 09-13-2014, 04:24 PM
 
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With all the talk of Scotland and Catalonia, which parts of your country want to secede?
Belgium wants to divide into two, do the Quebecois still want independence? Is there a strong movement in Sicily? Western China and Tibet? Anything else?

Which is the most likely to succeed in seceding?
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Old 09-13-2014, 07:05 PM
 
Location: San Diego, California Republic
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There are no real serious secessionist movements in the US at the time. This doesn't mean there aren't any at all and some are stronger than others. In order from strongest to weakest, they seem to be: Hawaii, Alaska, Vermont, Cascadia (Washington and Oregon only). Puerto Rico kind of but it has voted at least twice to remain a territory so not as strong as some might think. Texas varies on the scale depending on how mad they are at a given time. California is much the same as Texas meaning it varies but they're never as strong.
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Old 09-13-2014, 07:09 PM
 
Location: Paris, Île-de-France, France
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Here is another threads about secede regions that discussed in similar topic.
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Old 09-13-2014, 11:14 PM
 
Location: Metro Phoenix
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In the US, talk of seccession seems to be the most consistent in Texas and Hawaii, but it's extremely unlikely to happen in either and it is not supported by a majority of the people in those states.

The most vocal about succession now would be some of the southern states with large numbers of people who are slavering with fury over our Muslim Atheist Jihadist Communist Warmongering Peacenik Hippy Liberal Elitist Kenyan Illegal president and want to go back to being hunter-gatherers. They don't have the brainpower to secede.

In China, there are vocal and occasionally violent secession movements in Xinjiang and Tibet, the former having made a few headlines lately with some pretty heinous terrorist attacks around China, the latter having gotten lots of Western support in the 90's that has since dwindled. In brief, there is not a snowball's chance in hell China will let them secede.
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Old 09-13-2014, 11:20 PM
 
Location: Brisbane
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In Australia, Western Australia actually did vote to secede once, however it all fell apart because the Australian constitution does not allow it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secessi...tern_Australia
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Old 09-13-2014, 11:34 PM
 
Location: Hong Kong / Vienna
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Vorarlberg wanted to be part of Switzerland right after WWI, but not anymore.
Parts of Western Hungary, should have been part of our Bundesland Burgenland. The Hungarians rigged the referendum Crimean style, though. Now they call Sopron/Ödenburg "the most loyal town". Most loyal my ass...
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Old 09-14-2014, 12:02 AM
 
Location: Taipei
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China thinks we are a group of bratty separatists,they even has this anti-secession law that threatens to wipe this entire island off if any action is taken,when everybody knows the reality is nothing like that.Talk about blind morons.

Anyway,Hong Kong would probably turn to the seceding path if the current state remains,or exacerbates.

Most likely to succeed.....I think regions in functioning democracies all have a good shot,the rest would need a war.
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Old 09-14-2014, 12:30 AM
 
Location: United Kingdom
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In the US, talk of seccession seems to be the most consistent in Texas and Hawaii, but it's extremely unlikely to happen in either and it is not supported by a majority of the people in those states.

The most vocal about succession now would be some of the southern states with large numbers of people who are slavering with fury over our Muslim Atheist Jihadist Communist Warmongering Peacenik Hippy Liberal Elitist Kenyan Illegal president and want to go back to being hunter-gatherers. They don't have the brainpower to secede.

In China, there are vocal and occasionally violent secession movements in Xinjiang and Tibet, the former having made a few headlines lately with some pretty heinous terrorist attacks around China, the latter having gotten lots of Western support in the 90's that has since dwindled. In brief, there is not a snowball's chance in hell China will let them secede.
Presumably they have the brainpower to see Obama for who he is, unlike most of those with other political persuasions. Which makes them .... The most competent independent critical thinkers in the country. I guess the USA really is doomed.
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Old 09-14-2014, 12:37 AM
 
Location: Blighty
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Presumably they have the brainpower to see Obama for who he is, unlike most of those with other political persuasions. Which makes them .... The most competent independent critical thinkers in the country. I guess the USA really is doomed.
I actually think a good proportion of those in the south pushing for secession are actually very tuned in politically and economically - at least more so than the bone-headed liberals making fun of them: they tend to be sound money advocates who know that we're reaching the end stage of neo-keynesianism, know that the financial markets are rigged and subsidized by treasury purchases by the fed, that central banks have been directly intervening in stock markets, are rightfully skeptical of controlled media and militarization of police, and that, ultimately, all of it will not end well.
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Old 09-14-2014, 01:05 AM
 
Location: San Diego, California Republic
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If the south really wanted to leave, I say let them leave. I'm not saying that in a "who needs them" sort of way. I'm saying that if we are as free as they like to shove down our throats almost from birth, then freedom means states or regions should have the freedom to go their own way if they see fit, or else this freedom thing we like to shout is all a sham. I say the same to Cascadia, Alaska or any other region.

Unlike Australia, the US constitution doesn't mention secession at all so it really can't be called unconstitutional.
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