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Old 11-05-2014, 08:37 PM
 
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Indians have straight hair. Africans and their descendants usually have curly hair, unless they've purposely straightened it.
what does hair texture have to do with anything?
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Old 11-05-2014, 10:23 PM
 
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In my book ... Anybody darker than me is "black"
But in the U.S. Black means "descendant of Africans" ... Which I am, but since I'm Hispanic somehow that's supposed to cancel my African heritage/blood
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Old 11-06-2014, 03:45 AM
 
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He has nothing to be proud of.

Outside of the US, other countries' people just think India is a poor developing country like most of Africa, and some may mistaken Indians for being Black people.

I am not black but black men have a much better chance with white women, and indian americans are not the mainstream of american society, blacks integrated well in american society by living in the country for a few hundreds years earlier than Indian Americans.
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I'm Black, have two master's degrees and not poor. And even if I was poor and uneducated, does not make the distinction for the whole entire ethnicity. You are being racist for making the distinction between Indians and African-Americans as being financial and about education. Is that what distinguishes us? What the hell..there are plenty of Indian people I know that are poor and undereducated, and it doesn't make any difference on how I look at the Indian culture or people because of it. I do not look down at them because of it, because that's morally wrong.

You remind me of one of my relatives who is African-American, who married an Indian woman recently...and her family tried to disown her for marrying him...on top of that, her family was being dismissive of my family at the wedding, even though his father and sisters were all doctors. Ah, Indian folks taking time to be very racist like yourself is something more common that not, huh?
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Old 11-06-2014, 03:47 AM
 
Location: London, UK
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what does hair texture have to do with anything?
Because "black" people as a general rule have very curly hair. One characteristic of people of African descent.
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Old 11-06-2014, 10:59 AM
 
Location: Colorado
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Well, depending on where and when, Indians were often considered black. In colonial British/French/Dutch India (and in the East Indian islands as well) there was always a "black town" and a "white town" in cities where there was a significant European presence. Black town would be were the "blacks" or native Indians lived, and white town was the European section of the city.

In addition to this, there were also some (Asian) Indians who ended up in colonial British America one way or another and were simply considered "black" and were slaves and servants like Africans. Here is a runaway slave ad for an East Indian slave from colonial Virginia:



There are also numerous accounts of East Indians in colonial America like Thomas Mayhew, John Williams, and William Creek. Once freed East Indians in colonial America simply assimilated into the local free black (African) populations. East Indians were also subject to the same anti-miscengation laws as blacks. If an East Indian had a child with an European, it was considered no different than if an African had a child with an European. As a result of this colonial presence, it is common for "white" or "black" Americans taking a DNA test to receive results showing that they are a small percentage East Indian.

Moving forward in time, the British colonists in Australia also called the aboriginals "black". I am unsure of the popularity of it's current usage in Australia, but aboriginals were certainly called "black" well into the 20th century. This is despite the fact that they are not Africans.

Black Australians
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Old 11-06-2014, 11:00 AM
 
Location: Cumberland County, NJ
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I'm curious as to what "race" does everyone consider indians?

and why they never got the classification as "black" when they too come in the same shades as the people do in Africa
If Arabs aren't considered Black then why would Indians be?
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Old 11-06-2014, 11:05 AM
 
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Indians have straight hair. Africans and their descendants usually have curly hair, unless they've purposely straightened it.
So if you hace curly that means you're black ?
There is a lot of europeans, north africans and arabs with curly hair.
So you can't make a difference just with hair...
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Old 11-06-2014, 11:19 AM
 
Location: Cumberland County, NJ
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So if you hace curly that means you're black ?
There is a lot of europeans, north africans and arabs with curly hair.
So you can't make a difference just with hair...
Not to be mention Aboriginals from the Australian subcontinent.
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Old 11-06-2014, 11:24 AM
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what does hair texture have to do with anything?
Or skin color? Both are physical features.
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If Arabs aren't considered Black then why would Indians be?
Indians are often much darker.
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