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Old 11-19-2014, 03:08 PM
 
Location: Vancouver
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I just saw this story today....

Miss Honduras Maria Jose Alvarado And Her Sister Murdered

Honduras police recover bodies of beauty queen, sister

Here we have a young beauty queen who had her life snuffed out for I guess winning the pageant title.

It just goes to show you that the USA really isn't too unsafe compared to other countries. Even cities like Detroit, New Orleans, and Baltimore don't even compare to other world cities like Ciudad Juarez or Caracas when it comes to crime.

List of cities by murder rate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I mean compare the murder rate of Honduras to that of the U.S.

U.S. Murders - 14,827
U.S. Population - 316,100,000
U.S. Homicide Rate - 4.7

Honduras Murders - 7,172
Honduras Population - 8,098,000
Honduras Homicide Rate - 90.4

List of countries by intentional homicide rate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Not much of a comparison there!
Whatever makes you feel better.
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Old 11-19-2014, 04:22 PM
 
Location: São Paulo, Brazil
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Compared to other industrialized nations, it is high.

Stricter gun laws within different regions of the US mean nothing when you can easily cross into one state to another.
You must compare countries and compare gun crime in those countries that have stricter gun laws than the US.
Industrialized is not the same of developed.
Brazil is industrialized - though not developed - and has a very higher crime rate, one of the largest of the world. Sadly.
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Old 11-19-2014, 04:28 PM
 
Location: Vancouver
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Industrialized is not the same of developed.
Brazil is industrialized - though not developed - and has a very higher crime rate, one of the largest of the world. Sadly.
I kind of thought as I was typing...that perhaps I was using the wrong term..thx
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Old 11-19-2014, 07:15 PM
 
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The murder rate is so high in the US (by first world standards) because of the ridiculously lapse gun laws
Incorrect, but go ahead and think that if it makes you feel better.

Look at the demographics of those convicted of murder, that should help you start out...
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Old 11-19-2014, 07:32 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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So it is true that it is a deathwish to travel to Honduras.
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Old 11-19-2014, 08:03 PM
 
Location: California → Tennessee → Ohio
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Brazil is industrialized - though not developed - and has a very higher crime rate, one of the largest of the world. Sadly.

It's getting better though - Brazil's murder rate shows signs of stabilizing | GlobalPost
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Old 11-19-2014, 09:07 PM
 
Location: Canada
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So it is true that it is a deathwish to travel to Honduras.
It has serious problems, but mostly in its cities. The country is dominated by franchises of two warring street gangs originally from LA, Mara Salvatrucha and 18th Street Gang. Alot of the women are employed in the maquiladoras, but the men have trouble finding employment, often, in the new urbanized, globalized Honduras, and what work there is isn't always stable. The government has banana republic tendancies, protecting the interests of the mostly White old stock elite families who run the country. Reaction to the gangs has meant a militarization of police forces, and out of uniform cops driving around in unmarked cars, shooting street kids in drive-bys if they look like they might be in a gang, or even if they just look poor enough that they might join one, they're called death cars. Just, not a nice situation, definitely one of the most dangerous Latin American countries. The countryside isn't as dangerous, since it is, for the most part, away from both the gangs and the police in the city.

I don't think going to Honduras means you have deathwish, but it is a place where the people live in fear of crime. Go there only if you know what you're doing travelling in rough third world countries, not a place I'd recommend to random backpackers or pleasure tourists looking to take in an exotic city.
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Old 11-19-2014, 09:07 PM
 
Location: Buenos Aires, Argentina
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It just goes to show you that the USA really isn't too unsafe compared to other countries. Even cities like Detroit, New Orleans, and Baltimore don't even compare to other world cities like Ciudad Juarez or Caracas when it comes to crime.

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duh, of course, almost NO city in the world can compare to those cities you mentioned, wich are probably among the most dangerous cities in the world. Heck, Buenos aires, who some people may say is not very safe, is the Principality of Monaco next to Caracas or Ciudad Juarez.
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Old 11-19-2014, 09:10 PM
 
Location: Buenos Aires, Argentina
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I don't think anyone's surprised that 2nd world and 3rd world countries have higher crime rates than the US. The point is that for a first world country, the US's crime rate is pretty bad.
according to that wikipedia link that the OP posted, US and Argentina have the same crime rate. And US is first world....


Its true that next to european countries, US rate is pretty bad (also Argentina crime rate is very low next to some latin american countries)
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Old 11-19-2014, 09:41 PM
 
Location: California → Tennessee → Ohio
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It has serious problems, but mostly in its cities. The country is dominated by franchises of two warring street gangs originally from LA, Mara Salvatrucha and 18th Street Gang. Alot of the women are employed in the maquiladoras, but the men have trouble finding employment, often, in the new urbanized, globalized Honduras, and what work there is isn't always stable. The government has banana republic tendancies, protecting the interests of the mostly White old stock elite families who run the country. Reaction to the gangs has meant a militarization of police forces, and out of uniform cops driving around in unmarked cars, shooting street kids in drive-bys if they look like they might be in a gang, or even if they just look poor enough that they might join one, they're called death cars. Just, not a nice situation, definitely one of the most dangerous Latin American countries. The countryside isn't as dangerous, since it is, for the most part, away from both the gangs and the police in the city.

I don't think going to Honduras means you have deathwish, but it is a place where the people live in fear of crime. Go there only if you know what you're doing travelling in rough third world countries, not a place I'd recommend to random backpackers or pleasure tourists looking to take in an exotic city.

A week in the most dangerous city in the world


A week in the most dangerous city in the world | Channel 4 News - YouTube

The city of San Pedro Sula in Honduras is reported to be the most dangerous place on earth outside conflict zones - with three murders every day.
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