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Old 12-13-2014, 12:30 AM
 
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i mean: on average if you're from eastern europe will people be more hospitable in the US or western europe? out of the 'west' i've been to greece only so can't compare. thanks
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Old 12-14-2014, 04:06 AM
 
Location: western East Roman Empire
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i mean: on average if you're from eastern europe will people be more hospitable in the US or western europe? out of the 'west' i've been to greece only so can't compare. thanks
To answer your question - and I can only guess - generally speaking people in the US are less aware and don't care so much about where people come from, as long as you are law-abiding and, better yet, self-reliant (willing and able to set up and operate your own business and go as far as your own talents can take you, the America dream). In contrast, it seems, again very generally speaking, many people in western Europe view eastern Europeans as competitors for relatively scarce wage jobs and social services or even as criminals. Of course there are exceptions.

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Sure, an English accountant, French journalist, Swedish teacher, German police officer, Dutch engineer and a Danish doctor surely see Eastern Europeans as competitors for low wage jobs.

Most Europeans actually have an education, and couldn't care less if the bus driver or cashier at the supermarket is Romanian, Lithuanian or native.
You missed the point: the OP wanted a generalization, he got a generalization; "many" and "most" are mathematically different concepts. You, my son, like many others, are more arrogant than you are educated.



I agree that Greece is entrenched in western institutions and, yes, it is tiresome to argue otherwise, but also that the west is not its natural habitat, so to speak.

Bad grafting, then. Unfortunately the alternatives are worse.


Never mind, it's tiresome.

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Old 12-14-2014, 04:27 AM
 
Location: Finland
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In contrast, it seems, again very generally speaking, many people in western Europe view eastern Europeans as competitors for relatively scarce wage jobs and social services or even as criminals. Of course there are exceptions.
Sure, an English accountant, French journalist, Swedish teacher, German police officer, Dutch engineer and a Danish doctor surely see Eastern Europeans as competitors for low wage jobs.

Most Europeans actually have an education, and couldn't care less if the bus driver or cashier at the supermarket is Romanian, Lithuanian or native.
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Old 12-14-2014, 06:44 AM
 
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Sure, an English accountant, French journalist, Swedish teacher, German police officer, Dutch engineer and a Danish doctor surely see Eastern Europeans as competitors for low wage jobs.

Most Europeans actually have an education, and couldn't care less if the bus driver or cashier at the supermarket is Romanian, Lithuanian or native.
well if they don't care you still can't explain the 27% support of the UKIP in englnd then...unless the romanians vote for the ukip - which will make sense...
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Old 12-14-2014, 07:07 AM
 
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well if they don't care you still can't explain the 27% support of the UKIP in englnd then...unless the romanians vote for the ukip - which will make sense...
Funnily enough, many Viennese Serbs vote for our far-right anti-everything party. Those idiots are hilarious.
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Old 12-14-2014, 07:21 AM
 
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well if they don't care you still can't explain the 27% support of the UKIP in englnd then...unless the romanians vote for the ukip - which will make sense...
England is just one country of many, and many feel they don't want to be in the EU at all.
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Old 12-14-2014, 10:27 AM
 
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Were there strong objections in Western Europe when poorer eastern european countries wanted to join the EU?
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In contrast, it seems, again very generally speaking, many people in western Europe view eastern Europeans as competitors for relatively scarce wage jobs and social services or even as criminals. Of course there are exceptions.

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Old 12-14-2014, 10:36 AM
 
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Were there strong objections in Western Europe when poorer eastern european countries wanted to join the EU?
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In contrast, it seems, again very generally speaking, many people in western Europe view eastern Europeans as competitors for relatively scarce wage jobs and social services or even as criminals. Of course there are exceptions.

There were no "strong objections" initially, because it was all about "defeating Russia," so Eastern European countries were regarded as additional "buffer zones."

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Old 12-14-2014, 10:38 AM
 
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i mean: on average if you're from eastern europe will people be more hospitable in the US or western europe? out of the 'west' i've been to greece only so can't compare. thanks
In the US people will be more hospitable in this respect.
Americans simply don't care; Western Europeans - it's a different story.
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Old 12-14-2014, 10:48 AM
 
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Sure, an English accountant, French journalist, Swedish teacher, German police officer, Dutch engineer and a Danish doctor surely see Eastern Europeans as competitors for low wage jobs.

Most Europeans actually have an education, and couldn't care less if the bus driver or cashier at the supermarket is Romanian, Lithuanian or native.
Oh, sure, sure...

Germany admits mass immigration threatens 'social peace' | Daily Mail Online

USATODAY.com - Polish plumber flushes fears in France

Switzerland says NO to more foreign workers as it imposes new quota on immigrants amid fears of being swamped | Daily Mail Online

http://www.dw.de/germanys-fear-of-jo...ers/a-17338848
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