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Old 11-21-2008, 10:28 AM
 
Location: In a room above Mr. Charrington's shop
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When I read the part about swearing allegiance to another country, it caught me off guard, I had never considered it before, but if your going to become a citizen of another country, it does make sense to honor it.
True, it makes sense to swear/affirm allegiance. No one wants trouble makers. But when you think about and get beyond what it sounds like to publicly accept a flag, the queen, whatever -- the legal "terms and conditions" if you will -- and instead consider that means in day-to-day living, changing your citizenship becomes less ominous. Provision being, of course, that you intend to stay in your host country for a long time. If that's the case, why not become a citizen?
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Old 11-21-2008, 10:29 AM
 
Location: southern california
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unless you got buckets of money this is as good as it gets. where are the lines the longest? people become so memerized by their own complaining they begin to think we are living in a rotten country. also i have learned on CDF americans dont like other americans. most hated activity, looking in the mirror. live in another country, been there done that.
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Old 11-21-2008, 10:37 AM
 
Location: In a room above Mr. Charrington's shop
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where are the lines the longest?
In most cases, "the lines are longest" where economies hold promise, refuge offers safety, immigration barriers can be overcome, and distances are "traversable." I would say regionally this varies. My guess is that right now the lines are quite long leaving the Congo.
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Old 11-21-2008, 11:00 AM
 
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go to australia it is clean, has nice people and you can buy a nice house in most cities for a cheap price. particually adelaide,melbourne,perth and the gold coast.
Unfortunately this is not true, 18 Australian cities were in the top 50 for least affordable:
Australian Housing Market Most Unaffordable in the World
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Old 11-21-2008, 11:03 AM
 
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I have moved out of the country and found that there is a pretty fair amount of us who do this kind of thing. I was curious what other people are motivated by and where Ex-Pat's are headed for their "greener grasses".
My Utopian Quest landed me in Mexico, and we love it!
I have lived in Adelaide, South Australia and now Toronto.

Loved Oz, but my allergies were horrendous. It was expensive as well, but this has gotten better now that the AUD has tanked.

I like Toronto but found that its like New York without "all that stuff" (a quote from 30 Rock last night).

So my utopia is where I started: NYC.. as it seems to be the best of all places that I have lived.

I've travelled to 45 countries annd 47 states. I've lived in 5 countries. NYC and the Metro Area still pulls at my heart strings. Some people hate it.. I love it.. even more..
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Old 11-23-2008, 07:47 PM
 
Location: Ten Sleep
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Speaking for my American boyfriend he headed for Scotland for a better life, he loves it here but obviously still loves his home land. Theres a uniqueness about both countries for sure.

Seems to be a hotspot for Americans these days. Where I live anyway.
If he really loved his homeland he never would have left. He is a traitor!
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Old 11-23-2008, 08:40 PM
 
Location: Bay Area
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If he really loved his homeland he never would have left. He is a traitor!
I know it might be hard for you to comprehend, but sometimes people leave their homeland for other reasons. Sometimes it's for the adventure and cultural experience, sometimes it's to be with an aging/dying parent or relative, sometimes it's for an education (yes, there are many excellent programs abroad) . Try not to be so small minded and judgmental about other people's choices in life. Often times leaving your homeland allows you to actually appreciate and love your country even more.
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Old 11-24-2008, 12:04 AM
 
Location: In a room above Mr. Charrington's shop
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If he really loved his homeland he never would have left. He is a traitor!
I know it sometimes seems as though America is on its way to being "hermetically sealed" where no one gets in or out, but it hasn't happened yet.
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Old 11-24-2008, 03:20 AM
 
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I think everyone living in the U.S. can obviously see it's a ticking time bomb. Mass illegal immigration invasion, morals destroyed, a messed up economy, no one on the same page, etc. I'm thinking of moving to Ireland, personally.
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Old 11-24-2008, 08:26 AM
 
Location: Dorchester
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I think everyone living in the U.S. can obviously see it's a ticking time bomb. Mass illegal immigration invasion, morals destroyed, a messed up economy, no one on the same page, etc. I'm thinking of moving to Ireland, personally.
With the exception of the going to Ireland part. Comments like these have been made by people in this country every generation for the last 200 years. However, by all means, please leave.
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