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Old 01-22-2015, 06:57 AM
 
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I've heard that Indian culture is extremely conservative in appearance, attitudes toward sexuality, arts and entertainment, and pretty much all other aspects of their culture. They also happen to be a poor country, I'm not sure if there is a connection. For anyone who knows a lot about this country, do you see any trends towards cultural liberalization? Do you think within our lifetime, Indian culture will be about as open as Western culture?
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Old 01-22-2015, 08:33 AM
 
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I've heard that Indian culture is extremely conservative in appearance, attitudes toward sexuality, arts and entertainment, and pretty much all other aspects of their culture. They also happen to be a poor country, I'm not sure if there is a connection. For anyone who knows a lot about this country, do you see any trends towards cultural liberalization? Do you think within our lifetime, Indian culture will be about as open as Western culture?
For how long has our "western culture" been liberal during its history?

For how long has our "western culture" been prosperous during its history?

What you learn from history is that many dying cultures go through a mordant flourish at the end of their life spans even as the last vestiges of the civility imparted on it by former generations (the generations who built that culture to greatness) slowly fade away.

My opinion is: don't foist our own failures onto the rest of the developing world.
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Old 01-22-2015, 08:35 AM
 
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I guess I'm just too historically ignorant to understand the point you were making :-/
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Old 01-22-2015, 08:47 AM
 
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Societal_collapse

Though a wikipedia article, this has some pretty good links at the reference section.
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Old 01-22-2015, 08:54 AM
 
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For how long has our "western culture" been liberal during its history?

For how long has our "western culture" been prosperous during its history?

What you learn from history is that many dying cultures go through a mordant flourish at the end of their life spans even as the last vestiges of the civility imparted on it by former generations (the generations who built that culture to greatness) slowly fade away.

My opinion is: don't foist our own failures onto the rest of the developing world.
The OP asked about Indian culture and its degree of liberalization with regards to various social issues, and you gave him a lecture about "western civilization's imminent collapse". Whose to say India and other developing countries will also be facing imminent crisis and collapse - just having a relatively high GDP growth in the short run says nothing about a culture's success and resilience in the long run.
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Old 01-22-2015, 08:59 AM
 
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The OP asked about Indian culture and its degree of liberalization with regards to various social issues, and you gave him a lecture about "western civilization's imminent collapse". Whose to say India and other developing countries will also be facing imminent crisis and collapse - just having a relatively high GDP growth in the short run says nothing about a culture's success and resilience in the long run.
You've not understood the point. Though it may not answer the OP it challenges its most important premise: Why should we strive to turn other cultures into mirror images of our own when we have reason to believe that it may not necessarily be a good thing?
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Old 01-22-2015, 09:12 AM
 
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They are becoming more liberal as they become exposed to western television, pop music and so on. They're also taking on many of our nastier habits.

Personally, I generally like to be around traditionally brought up Indians than those who are westernized. The former tend to be much more pleasant, a bit more humble and easy to get on with. Among westernized Indians, I come across far too many who are sensitive about status and project this phlegmatic attitude that can be a bit uncomfortable.
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Old 01-22-2015, 09:34 AM
 
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They are becoming more liberal as they become exposed to western television, pop music and so on. They're also taking on many of our nastier habits.

Personally, I generally like to be around traditionally brought up Indians than those who are westernized. The former tend to be much more pleasant, a bit more humble and easy to get on with. Among westernized Indians, I come across far too many who are sensitive about status and project this phlegmatic attitude that can be a bit uncomfortable.
Are you referring to Indians who live in their native country, or differences between first and second generation Indian immigrants in your own country?
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Old 01-22-2015, 09:43 AM
 
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Are you referring to Indians who live in their native country, or differences between first and second generation Indian immigrants in your own country?
You're right but I can't see how it'll be that much different for Indians living in their home country.
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Old 01-22-2015, 10:54 AM
 
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You've not understood the point. Though it may not answer the OP it challenges its most important premise: Why should we strive to turn other cultures into mirror images of our own when we have reason to believe that it may not necessarily be a good thing?
If possible I would like to avoid the "what is best" conversation in this thread.
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