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The only time in history that Miami had more international recognition than Chicago was from the early 1960's to the late 1980's and 2010-2014 just because LeBron played there.
I think the two cities have a similar "international recognition" but Miami does have a more distinct brand. That's not to say that Chicago evokes no associations whatsoever. Even if most people would not be able to identify Chicago on a photo, one or two associations would probably come to mind to most reasonably-educated people around the world (be it Al Capone and the Chicago Mob of the 20s and 30s, its musical influences, Michael Jordan or countless Hollywood blockbusters). That said, it's clear that Miami's brand is more unique and sexy, and it's had a better momentum in the last decade or two.
As for the cities themselves, there is not much of a comparison. On one side is a mature, well-developed metropolis that's been one of the leading cities in the country (if not the entire western world) for over a century. On the other is a gangly teenager of a city that's showing great promise but still has a lot of growing up to do.
now you realize you lost one, you want to shift the goal posts
I didnt lose anything. I voted for Miami in the poll.
Outside of Asia, where Chicago is better know, Miami is better known on the whole.
In Africa, Miami has a lot of name recognition among white South Africans because its a popular vacation spot. Chicago has a much larger North African Arab community, but since Ive never been to Africa outside Johannesburg and Cape Town, Im not going to claim anything.
I have spent ample time in Asia and I feel quite confident in my opinion there.
Miami wins where it counts, not a poll dominated by midwesterners.
I.e check all the people from abroad who will tell you Miami over Chicago.
Ofc to people out of Iowa, Chicago might be first.
What are you counting? Are there other stats or polls outside of this forum that tackled this same question? If so please feel free to post. Again, if you told me that Miami has better name recognition, thats fine I would believe it because it is a has very distinct (albeit uniform) culture unique to the US. Now run along and try to find to find something compelling.
What are you counting? Are there other stats or polls outside of this forum that tackled this same question? If so please feel free to post. Again, if you told me that Miami has better name recognition, thats fine I would believe it because it is a has very distinct (albeit uniform) culture unique to the US. Now run along and try to find to find something compelling.
slow down there corn husker, who do you think you are to tell me to "run along?"
If you want to get a sense of just how slanted Miami's international portfolio is, one needs only to look at international immigration data. I will post airline destination data when I have time to look it up in the next day or so, but for now this will be a start since no one has posted any kind of SPECIFIC data. Below is international immigration data from 2013:
Total international immigrants by MSA/CSA (over 8,000 listed):
New York: 167,393
Los Angeles/Riverside: 93,919
Miami: 66,636
San Francisco/San Jose: 47,892
Washington/Baltimore: 47,769
Chicago: 32,819
Houston: 31,953
Dallas: 26,760
Boston: 23,867
Atlanta: 20,054
Philadelphia: 18,121
Seattle: 17,865
San Diego: 16,567
Detroit: 11,131
Phoenix: 11,025
Minneapolis: 10,478
Orlando: 10,200
Las Vegas: 8,381
Tampa: 8,360
International Immigrants from Africa by MSA/CSA (over 2k listed):
It's very hard to find a job here outside of the service, fashion, entertainment industries. And engineering industries pay very low. I have the benefit of being able to work remotely, otherwise for reasonable salaries I'd probably be commuting to Ft. Lauderdale as an iOS developer.
It's very hard to find a job here outside of the service, fashion, entertainment industries. And engineering industries pay very low. I have the benefit of being able to work remotely, otherwise for reasonable salaries I'd probably be commuting to Ft. Lauderdale as an iOS developer.
That keeps the Asians (read Indians) very low.
I dont quite buy that.
Over 1/3 of Miami's international immigration comes from one country: Cuba. Its not as if Cubans are coming to Miami because theres a particular economic background they specialize in. They come because Miami is the center of Cuban culture in the US and because of family and relatives.
Miami has nothing to culturally offer Asians on the whole. The only sizable Asian communities in Miami are Indians and Fillipinos. The Fillipinos immigrate to Miami because of the cruise industry. As for Indians, well most major cities have a sizable Indian population. Even then the Indian population in South Florida is much smaller than all metro areas around the same size.
Asians like most ethnicities immigrate where they feel comfortable and where they have friends and families. There is some economic specialties where some ethnicities travel for a specific line of work, but not many. The only ones I can think of are Indians in the Bay Area and Seattle (and Seattles Indian population still isnt huge).
The long and short is that Miami is a Latin city with significant influences from Europe (mainly Southern Europe) and Israel. Miami's Asian cultural offerings are small.
Now look at Chicago. Obviously Chicago has no where near the Latin concentration of Miami (though it does have a much larger Mexican population) and Miami is a bigger tourist destination. But Chicago is a much more balanced city ethnically and overall in general. Chicago pulls a little bit from every place (Latin America, Asia, Africa, and Europe). Chicago also has one of the most diverse (if not the most diverse) economies in the US. Chicago's importance also vastly eclipses that of Miami (with the exception of Latin American finance and tourism).
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