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Who cares about Dawkins? You seem to think atheism or religion is a person's defining trait.
I don't see that you've put your arguments in a strong position. Every time you try to explain your rationale, you diverge from the single notion that is atheism.You just keep presenting subjective views from individuals who share a single core belief with me -big deal.
Doctrine: "A belief or set of beliefs held and taught by a church, political party, or other group."
Some contingent beliefs:
"There is no higher morality other than man."
"There is (in the universe), at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but blind, pitiless indifference."
Sorry for being so upfront but I'm very curious about this I would like to ask a couple of questions if you don't mind, so you don't believe in a Deity that created that is what I understand.
Do you believe that there is organized energy working together? I'm specifically thinking about life cycles the plants the solar system. I'm just curious how most atiests view that, I'm asking because my lack of belief and belief is still a work in progress.
Sounds a bit like a kind of pantheism where everything is an interlinked energy or where nature is "God".
I've been down the new age route reading about stuff like "Earth energies", "the Gaia hypothesis" and other esoterica, and my conclusion is that it is downright dangerous. There are many people who follow it who, after years of so-called "enlightenment" become dangerously uncoupled from reality and lose their minds. Recommended as a lifestyle choice if you want a reasonably reliable way to destroy your sanity.
Sorry for being so upfront but I'm very curious about this I would like to ask a couple of questions if you don't mind, so you don't believe in a Deity that created that is what I understand.
Do you believe that there is organized energy working together? I'm specifically thinking about life cycles the plants the solar system. I'm just curious how most atiests view that, I'm asking because my lack of belief and belief is still a work in progress.
I don't really know. Inorganic matter has properties, and chemistry arises from that, which gives rise to organic matter -life. I don't have any theories of why matter has properties, or why it even exists. I think humanity or any living creature, may be the closest thing to some sort of self awareness for existence.
I look to the promise of science for answers, although questions of "why?", may be beyond science. Easy to see why religious belief exists.
Atheism isn't really about answers imo, that's more of a religious thing.
Doctrine: "A belief or set of beliefs held and taught by a church, political party, or other group."
Some contingent beliefs:
"There is no higher morality other than man."
"There is (in the universe), at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but blind, pitiless indifference."
I'm not sure about point one, and point two is pure garbage imo.
Sounds a bit like pantheism where everything is an interlinked energy.
I've been down the new age route and it isn't a pretty sight, in many cases downright dangerous. There are many people in it who are dangerously uncoupled from reality and have a dangerously unstable grasp of reality.
I understand I'm not a follower I'm just curious my thoughts aren't set in stone I like hearing different perspectives. I just don't think I really have a good understanding of the what it means to be athiest yet I suspect it is different for different people but I'm not sure.
I'm not sure about point one, and point two is pure garbage imo.
If you disagree with their definitions, maybe you'd like to write a letter to the Stanford Encyclopedia, which is pretty much the gold standard online reference for philosophy, and explain to them why they're wrong?
If you disagree with their definitions, maybe you'd like to write a letter to the Stanford Encyclopedia, which is pretty much the gold standard online reference for philosophy, and explain to them why they're wrong?
Pointless exercise with subjective definitions.
Have you got those doctrines of atheism there, by any chance ?.... I was hoping to get a look at them.
I don't really know. Inorganic matter has properties, and chemistry arises from that, which gives rise to organic matter -life. I don't have any theories of why matter has properties, or why it even exists. I think humanity or any living creature, may be the closest thing to some sort of self awareness for existence.
I look to the promise of science for answers, although questions of "why?", may be beyond science. Easy to see why religious belief exists.
Atheism isn't really about answers imo, that's more of a religious thing.
Thanks for your your honest response I appreciate that very helpful actually.
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