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Old 02-25-2015, 10:20 PM
 
Location: M I N N E S O T A
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Things to consider.... welfare systems, min wage and cost of living.

Here in America it seems like the only route you are allowed to take in life is the middle class lifestyle or the "American dream" go to a 4 year school, work in some random 9 to 5 office job, house in the suburbs, chevy tahoe, 2 kids and a golden retriever. however this is slowly changing.

Living a more minimalist lifestyle is becoming easier but its still sort of hard...

In America things are very cheap, you can live in mobile homes which is one of the most affordable housing options around. you can get a used car, gas is cheap, taxes are low, you can still travel and have fun, take road trips and stay in motels.

problem is a lot of low income neighborhoods in big cities are full of street gangs and violence... so you are a lot of times forced out into small towns.

Things we are missing that are crucial.
Universal healthcare, good welfare system and low budget airlines.
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Old 02-26-2015, 01:23 AM
 
Location: Eindhoven, Netherlands
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Poor for the country they living in or poor by world standard?
Thailand has to be in the top 10.
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Old 02-26-2015, 02:37 AM
 
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Some of the worlds happiest countries are also the poorest. I'd look at that index.
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Old 02-26-2015, 03:44 AM
 
Location: Finland
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Finland or Sweden are definitely worth considering. You'll survive really easy in some rural hellhole, buy a 90's Mazda and work some easy crappy job. Even the scenery is similar to Minnesota! We don't have a minimum wage, but they are negotiated by the unions. In any case they are far better than the US federal minimum. The income tax is steeply progressive here, low-income people don't pay more taxes in Finland than in the US, BUT you'll get universal healthcare and social subsidies if necessary.

Buy this one: Viistotie 7, Kauhava | Oikotie

Cheap as dirt, only €76k!

Isn't this some kind of paradise to you?
https://www.google.fi/maps/@63.10029...nTUzemxKmw!2e0
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Old 02-26-2015, 07:18 AM
 
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any country in western europe , the wellfare state in the usa is wafer thin compared to europe

i say that as someone who thinks the wellfare state in western europe is unsustainable in its current form BTW
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Old 02-26-2015, 07:24 AM
 
Location: Taipei
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Yeah European countries.
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Old 02-26-2015, 07:51 AM
 
Location: São Paulo, Brazil
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Finland or Sweden are definitely worth considering. You'll survive really easy in some rural hellhole, buy a 90's Mazda and work some easy crappy job. Even the scenery is similar to Minnesota! We don't have a minimum wage, but they are negotiated by the unions. In any case they are far better than the US federal minimum. The income tax is steeply progressive here, low-income people don't pay more taxes in Finland than in the US, BUT you'll get universal healthcare and social subsidies if necessary.

Buy this one: Viistotie 7, Kauhava | Oikotie

Cheap as dirt, only €76k!

Isn't this some kind of paradise to you?
https://www.google.fi/maps/@63.10029...nTUzemxKmw!2e0
Are there poor people in nordic countries?
What do you call "poor"?
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Old 02-26-2015, 07:52 AM
 
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Yeah European countries.
Including Ukraine, Moldova, Bulgaria, Romania, Croatia, Serbia, Kosovo, Albania, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Belarus, Montenegro, Russia. Those countries too?

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Are there poor people in nordic countries?
What do you call "poor"?
There are favelas in every country of the world, Fabio
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Old 02-26-2015, 08:20 AM
 
Location: Taipei
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Including Ukraine, Moldova, Bulgaria, Romania, Croatia, Serbia, Kosovo, Albania, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Belarus, Montenegro, Russia. Those countries too?
No. Western and Northern Europe, to be precise.

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There are favelas in every country of the world, Fabio
I don't think that's true, but it depends on what qualifies as a favela in your opinion.
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Old 02-26-2015, 08:36 AM
 
Location: Eindhoven, Netherlands
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There are favelas in every country of the world, Fabio
Show me a favela in Japan and Switzerland.
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