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I Somalia, you would not be subject to crushing taxes, a maze of municipal regulations that restrict your living conditions to be at the mercy of slumlords, systematic violation of your privacy, and regulatory/licensing prohibitions blocking free enterprise, and subject to costly protection against a potentially lethal climate.
You have the same opportunity to move up in the world in Somalia as in Detroit -- just sell your soul to different warlords. Even in North Korea, you are perfectly free to join the Communist Party, and rise in the ranks according to your diligence and ability, same as in the corporate structure of Detroit.
This coming from a $500 winner with over 30,000 points in reputation...wow, I don't even know where to begin. You think that Somalia offers more than Detroit, just...wow.
Everyone take notice, this is a poor attempt at the destruction of America's image. Texan here thinks Somalia > Detroit. Good grief, I don't think you can be reasoned with.
No in Somalia you only have much higher rates of disease and are more likely to die from those diseases in Somalia vs the United States. Considering Somalia has extreme poverty your taxation comments are rather absurd. Considering the country is an actual war zone that is an extreme difference between the United States and Somalia.
This is so full of fail I honestly don't know where to begin. I know you hate the United States but this is just pathetic.
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Originally Posted by Greysholic
BUT if one is swift enough to dodge all the bullets in Somalia and has no problem with worshiping the Kims, then I guess Somalia and North Korea are pretty great.
Oh, really? And just how do you think party leaders are chosen in North Korea? And corporate heads at General Motors.
How do you know that Somalia is in a war zone? Do you think every housewife in a city of millions has to dodge a hail of bullets every day to go to the market?
Go and see the inner city Detroit suburb of Highland Park, In every block, there are two or three houses have been burned out, because the utilities have been shut off or have just broken down in disrepair, and people are cooking and heating with open fires in their houses. These are families who were born there, not gangs who have gravitated there drawn to the lawless lifestyle.
Nobody said things were "pretty great" in Somalia and North Korea. They are good and bad everywhere, influeenced by different kinds of factors. All these kinds of threads are populated by posters who insist that the whole world is divided into the absolute white and he absolute black, and feel they have a mission to perpetuate that myth so as to glorify their own culture. Somebody has to step in and inform you that life goes on in the third world, people develop their own cultural organizations and societal functions, and the difference in how people live are not all that extreme, regardless of the relative incompetence or villainy of the government..
In fact ,the government takes the trouble and goes to the expense to insinuate itself into the private lives of the citizenry in the USA maybe more so than practically any other country in the world. Third world countries don't have the time or the technology or the manpower to spy on people and pay attention to their every day affairs, much less bully them around and subject them to administrative minutiae. What country in the world is holding the largest proportion of its citizens in prison? For non-violent offenses? Spoiler: It's not North Korea.
To paraphrase: I know you hate (insert third world country that you've never been to) but this is just pathetic.
Detroit can actually be on to something good - an alternative economy and way off living. When I watch these documentaries on Detroit, like the BBC one above, there is bucket loads of HOPE and relative safety outwith the criminal world. Can you say that for Somalia or North Korea?
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I did not equate anything. I said there are good and bad features about all countries, in response to people who said third world countries are all bad and there are no redeeming qualities to be found in any aspect of the way of life there for any demographic sector. How is that bad logic? The US government is paying very close attention to everything you do, far beyond just storing your online communications. If your phone is turned on, they're storing exactly where you are right now. They know exactly how many pounds of grapes you bought at Krogers at 3:24 this afternoon, and what time you want through a traffic light on the way home and they have a photo of your passengers and software to digitally identify them. And regulatory power has got every private sector industry doing the heavy lifting of gathering that data and feeding it to the government. And you can be sure that when they need to use that against you, they will. The government's first priority is to protect itself, not the citizenry.
Even by the most liberal estimates, the rate of North Koreans being thrown into gulags is lower than the rate of Americans being thrown into jails and prisons, more than 90% of them without a trial -- plea bargained to have several imaginary charges against them dropped in exchange for a guilty plea to one for a non-violent offense.
Guess what? Times are hard everywhere in a war zone. Great Britain was the worst country in the world to live in during WWII. Yeah, if a war is going on, it'll be a rough neighborhood, but that doesn't make a whole country irredeemably bad to the core of its very nature. Today there are parts of Somalia that are as quiet and peaceful as South Dakota, and men are siting in cafes playing backgammon.
I think All country needs clean water But Bangladesh number 1. It is bit confused to me. This country called land of river. How can they need clean water then Afghanistan or Ethiopia.
It is not dependent on how much water there is, but whether it is safe to drink. Bangladesh water is already polluted when it comes down the rivers from India, and because nearly all the land is very low, there is flooding every year over most of Bangladesh, so it a serious problem to keep any potential drinking water separate from polluting flood waters. Even the USA would have no safe drinking water, if it were not for the very costly process of purifying it, and Bangladesh has little wealth to invest in purifying its water.
I Somalia, you would not be subject to crushing taxes, a maze of municipal regulations that restrict your living conditions to be at the mercy of slumlords, systematic violation of your privacy, and regulatory/licensing prohibitions blocking free enterprise, and subject to costly protection against a potentially lethal climate.
You have the same opportunity to move up in the world in Somalia as in Detroit -- just sell your soul to different warlords. Even in North Korea, you are perfectly free to join the Communist Party, and rise in the ranks according to your diligence and ability, same as in the corporate structure of Detroit.
You make it out to be quite a bit easier than it seems............
For example, in North Korea there's practically no resemblance of freedom, even the private lifes of their citizens are controlled by the government, also the population especially rural areas is starving as the government is often not able to guarantee access to food and drinking water to a large part of their citizens, North Korea is a ticking timebomb. Large parts of Somalia are affected by a civil war which has lasted for more than 20 years now, that's not the only problem affecting the country, there are diseases, famines and epidemies which affect large parts of the population. It's not a wonder that the country has one of the lowest life expectancies in the World
How do you know that Somalia is in a war zone? Do you think every housewife in a city of millions has to dodge a hail of bullets every day to go to the market?
You quoted the part of my post in which I asked "How do you know . . . ?", which remains unanswered.
The original poll lists a number of countries in which the general population is as happy and contented, if not more so, than in any industrialized countries with their epidemics of obesity, psychosis, depression, alcoholism, pornography, suicide, bankruptcy, geriatric institutionalization and dysfunctional family and social life.
Someone, please, present some evidence that in countries that are economically undeveloped, there are absolutely no compensating qualities or values that offset their lack of obscene wealth. Evidence that access to cash is the only metric of personal wellbeing, and that money can buy anything.
Or that a perception of democratic governance is in direct proportion to the happiness of the citizenry.
You can't just point out a couple of episodes of Vice TV showing some isolated local tyrant in a remote hinterland, and say Look, see, there is proof that everyone in Africa is miserable and starving and living in terror.
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This is so full of fail I honestly don't know where to begin. I know you hate the United States but this is just pathetic.
