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Old 04-17-2015, 11:16 AM
 
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It is China, not India. Listen to Marco Polo. Lol

What makes a country rich now is indeed different. For example, Saudi Arabia is among the richest in the world. But 1000 years ago, you could not rely on oil to be rich. It's strange you want to make a simplistic connection between wealth and IQ. Even so, China has not been a poor nation for the most part of history.

Jews are fully exposed to western civilization. You can't compare Jews with eastern nations. Very simple logic.
Wrong. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._past_GDP_(PPP)

I am not trying to link wealth and IQ per se. I am trying to link scientific progress and IQ.
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Old 04-17-2015, 11:35 AM
 
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You are repeating the article which I believe is nonsense.
lol You would rather believe non-sense results from some IQ-test websites?
It's the truth that Chinese children's IQ has increased at least 10 points for the last 30 years. Many official researches has been done, with a lot of datas support.
Google Scholar may help you: Here is the link
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Old 04-17-2015, 11:46 AM
 
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These IQ figures are nothing but nonsense

China deliberately skews its IQ so it looks higher and it makes the country look good
the Chinese government are nothing but liars

the reality is that over 70,000,000 people in china can't even read or write
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Old 04-17-2015, 12:45 PM
 
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I think I speak for a lot of people when I say, nobody cares.
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Old 04-17-2015, 01:03 PM
 
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Wrong. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._past_GDP_(PPP)

I am not trying to link wealth and IQ per se. I am trying to link scientific progress and IQ.
Did you even read the data you posted? According to your data, China has been way more wealthy than India for the most part:

China 26,820 26,550 61,800 96,000 82,800 228,600 189,740 241,431 244,985 739,414 6,187,984
India 33,750 33,750 60,500 74,250 90,750 111,417 134,882 204,242 222,222 494,832 2,267,136

But honestly, GDP of ancient time??? Just some numbers.

India was not a unified empire either, but China was. So what do you mean by India and China?
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Old 04-17-2015, 01:12 PM
 
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good grief. People have a real problem with this.

The arrogance such as: 'oh well, it just can't be true'... they're Chinese etc.

...why is that? Would we even be having this discussion if it was European countries at the forefront? Would we be having people say 'oh if you Europeans are so clever why did get into WWII?'

Is this a racial discussion? Methinks to many people, it is. They are offended it isn't a White, Western country topping the list, and they just don't believe it - obviously just smoke and lies.

no
it's not arrogance
it's fact

it's nothing to do with race, we all know what the Chinese government is like

they spread deception and like the western world to overestimate china, when in reality china is weak


world wars would have happened, regardless of which civilization started them or was in power
you do realise than china was involved in world war 2, right ???
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Old 04-17-2015, 01:14 PM
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China was not always poor. It was the richest nation 1000 years ago.
All nations go up and down. Now China is going up.

Genetically, Jews are not really a single group. For example, many of the successful Jews are genetically similar/identical to Germans now.

The bolded is false, the European population that Ashkenazi Jews cluster with is the Italians. Ashkenazi's bridge two population clusters the Middle East and Southern Europe(particularly Italians).
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Old 04-17-2015, 01:31 PM
 
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If anyone posted a similar IQ map of the US states, people would be howling it down for its implicit racism.
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Old 04-17-2015, 01:57 PM
 
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Oh my, you do realise I was showing how STUPID it would be to compare a nation to it's historical record right?

And for the record the PISA tests that rated Shanghai as having the world's best schooling, despite 80% coming from poor backgrounds is not Chinese but an international body. Also the Chinese govt does not seek to show off it's ratings - the official policy is what is known as the 'Silent Rise' (this is why it denied and even threatened to walk out of talks after both the UN and World Bank declared it the world's largest economy in PPP last year. To this day the govt asserts that the figures are wrong and it is still behind the US). For example when PISA rated the rest of the schools from poorer provinces too China did so on the accord they findings would not be published internationally, although Andreas Schleicher of the OECD who commissioned the tests and saw the findings, hinted that it may be the world's cleverest country.

China: The world's cleverest country? - BBC News

give me a real source, not BBC news
what is the international body ?

these are the actual IQ averages for nations

1. Hong Kong: 107
2. South Korea: 106
3. Japan: 105
4. Taiwan: 104
5. Singapore: 103
6. Austria: 102
7. Germany: 102
8. Italy: 102
9. Netherlands: 102
10. Sweden: 101
11. Switzerland: 101
12. Belgium: 100
13. China: 100
14. New Zealand: 100
15. United Kingdom: 100
16. Hungary: 99
17. Poland: 99
18. Spain: 99
19. Australia: 98
20. Denmark: 98

china is vastly overestimated

*sigh
It's not the world's largest economy
GDP per capita is more important than PPP,
these are the largest economies, the list was made by the united nations



china is still way behind the USA and will never surpass it economically, the Chinese economy, much like Japan's in the early 90s is a bubble and it's about to burst

1 United States♠16,768,100
China9,181,204
Japan4,898,532
Germany3,730,261
France2,678,455
United Kingdom2,267,456
Brazil2,243,85o
Italy2,149,480
Russia2,096,774
India1,937,797
Canada1,838,964
Australia1,531,282
Spain1,358,263
South Korea1,304,554
Mexico1,259,201
Indonesia868,346
Netherlands853,539
Turkey822,149
Saudi Arabia♠748,450
Switzerland
685,434
Argentina611,726
Sweden579,680
Poland525,863
Belgium524,806
Norway522,349

in millions of us $
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Old 04-17-2015, 03:47 PM
 
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give me a real source, not BBC news
what is the international body ?

these are the actual IQ averages for nations

1. Hong Kong: 107
2. South Korea: 106
3. Japan: 105
4. Taiwan: 104
5. Singapore: 103
6. Austria: 102
7. Germany: 102
8. Italy: 102
9. Netherlands: 102
10. Sweden: 101
11. Switzerland: 101
12. Belgium: 100
13. China: 100
14. New Zealand: 100
15. United Kingdom: 100
16. Hungary: 99
17. Poland: 99
18. Spain: 99
19. Australia: 98
20. Denmark: 98
This data is outdated. Even the author admitted they manipulated data because they had no chance to do a thorough study.
Here is an updated version by Lynn and Vanhanen 2006
http://www.iqtestforfree.net/average-IQ-by-country.html
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