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Old 06-14-2015, 03:37 PM
 
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As an American who lives in an urban, walkable downtown neighborhood of a mostly suburban city, I can understand completely why some people would not want to live the urban lifestyle.

Bottom line: We have a larger percentage of trashy and inconsiderate people who make such living unpalatable. These folks have no respect for basic stuff (noise, etc.). I had a homeless camp right across the street from my apartment building for the last 6-8 months that they only just cleared out a few days ago (tents and mattresses on the sidewalk, dogs barking, someone drinking a beer on the building steps at 9 AM. I could go on and on....). And this was right behind City Hall in San Jose, California, an affluent, low crime city by American standards.
Urban america is going downhill. This time next year I suspect it'll be even worse.
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Old 06-14-2015, 03:49 PM
 
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Europe is superior to America in so many ways, not the EU, but Europe, especially food, culture, history, market places ect: America is great in other ways but is no comparison to Europe.
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Old 06-14-2015, 03:55 PM
 
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Check the demographics(a polite way to say this) of major cities in Europe and the US and you will see why the US is lacking and going downhill. However, Europe is heading this way more and more each day.
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Old 06-14-2015, 03:55 PM
 
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Europe is superior to America in so many ways, not the EU, but Europe, especially food, culture, history, market places ect: America is great in other ways but is no comparison to Europe.
Have you ever had a Thanksgiving dinner?
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Old 06-14-2015, 04:33 PM
 
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Repeat.. America is great I am a fan, just had a week in Tuscany, sorry Europe is something else. I do want to see New England in Fall, I might be softer
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Old 06-14-2015, 05:04 PM
 
Location: M I N N E S O T A
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Europe is superior to America in so many ways, not the EU, but Europe, especially food, culture, history, market places ect: America is great in other ways but is no comparison to Europe.
Yes i agree, i would hope a continent would be "superior" to a country.

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Check the demographics(a polite way to say this) of major cities in Europe and the US and you will see why the US is lacking and going downhill. However, Europe is heading this way more and more each day.
I think you need to double check your sources... crime rates are going down in American cities, so in what aspect are we going down hill? and what do demographics have to do with anything?
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Old 06-14-2015, 05:26 PM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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LOL at American cities going downhill. No, for the most part they were already near the bottom in the 1980s and 90s. American cities have been going uphill ever since.

It's just that they have become mostly for rich people in the upscale areas now. New York City and Washington DC are perfect examples of this.
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Old 06-14-2015, 06:15 PM
 
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As for the future, I hope that some American cities will rise to the level of mediocrity.

This would involve retro fitting what was poorly planned/slapped together in the first place.

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Old 06-15-2015, 03:18 PM
 
Location: The Silver State (from the UK)
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Now, if you could just get the crime levels down to European levels and get rid of the slums and poverty Baltimore might actually not be such a bad city.

You mean get crime up to European levels right? Baltimore aside, most American towns would be horrified at the crime rates of many a Euro nation
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Old 06-16-2015, 02:39 AM
 
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LOL at American cities going downhill. No, for the most part they were already near the bottom in the 1980s and 90s. American cities have been going uphill ever since.

It's just that they have become mostly for rich people in the upscale areas now. New York City and Washington DC are perfect examples of this.
There was a low point in the 1970s and 1980s, but we're headed back down to that, and probably destined lower. Municipal governments with dire balance sheets, infrastructure falling apart, lawlessness on the rise, racial divisions fracturing, urban middle class (and in the nation as a whole) disappearing. Anyone who is not worried by this can only keep his head buried for so long.
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