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Old 04-20-2015, 11:43 AM
 
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Really? that is pretty amazing.

does the $300 a month include everything like utilities, garbage, etc.?
no utilities are never included. Garbage is.

Of course $300 won't give you any great apartment in central locations, but it is definitely doable in many non-central parts of the city.

7 years ago I was renting an old split 2 bedroom apartment for $450 in central Shanghai (Xujiahui). I am sure rents have gone up since then. Nowadays, such prices probably only give you a one bedroom in that location.
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Old 04-20-2015, 12:36 PM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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Most Chinese undergraduates in the US cannot attend prestigious universities in China.

The college entrance exam in China is very difficult. It is probably the most difficult exam for college admissions in the world.
The number of people who would be accepted to a "prestigious" university in China, or to Princeton or Harvard (as mentioned earlier), is such a ridiculously tiny number of outliers, it could not possibly have any relevance to the topic as a whole.
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Old 04-20-2015, 03:24 PM
 
Location: NYC
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It depends on the choice, which countries are available. Decide between Germany and Russia. That's easy, better homeless in Germany than a millionaire in Russia. Russia is a dictatorship or at least a nearly dictatorship.

Poor in Germany or middle class in Chile? Probably the last one is the better choice, at least if poor in Germany means to live on social benefits for your whole live. Hmmm, but the other way around living on social benefits for your whole live would mean a lot of time to spend for playing video games for example.

I think living poor in a developed country with a good welfare system is the better choice.
You must think either that being homeless is a cakewalk or that Russia is some kinda hell on earth. Neither is remotely true (though on the homeless question, I am just speculating).
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Old 04-20-2015, 03:52 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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Most Chinese undergraduates in the US cannot attend prestigious universities in China.

The college entrance exam in China is very difficult. It is probably the most difficult exam for college admissions in the world.
It only shows that screening through entrance exam is NOT part of the methodology when ranking the best universities in the world.
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Old 04-20-2015, 09:19 PM
 
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It only shows that screening through entrance exam is NOT part of the methodology when ranking the best universities in the world.
Of course. But it does help the schools get very good students (academically).
Do you know which university sends the most PhD students to UC Berkeley? It is Tsinghua University of China.
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Old 04-21-2015, 06:59 AM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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Of course. But it does help the schools get very good students (academically).
Do you know which university sends the most PhD students to UC Berkeley? It is Tsinghua University of China.
I have not seen any later figures since, but in the 1970's, Scientific American magazine reported that of all the then-current candidates for Ph.D. degrees in the natural sciences in American universities, 93% of them went to high school outside the United States. I have no reason to believe that that figure has changed very much since then.


That suggests to me that there aren't very many places in American graduate schools for American students, who therefore have very limited educational opportunities at that level -- or at the very least, have had very little opportunity at lower levels of education to attain the qualifications for such advanced study.
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Old 04-21-2015, 12:03 PM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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By the same token, I'd choose to be of a wealthier, upper-middle class or upper class in a developing country rather than middle class in a developed country.
I think that would make me feel very guilty.
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Old 04-21-2015, 12:08 PM
 
Location: Between the Alps and the North Sea
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I'd rather be poor in a developed nation. Two words: safety and corruption. I'd rather not have a car to drive but feel safe while I am walking/riding a bus around the town, than have one and worry all the time that it will be stolen. I'd also rather not have much money but also not worry about having it taken away by criminals or having to spend it on bribing corrupt bureaucrats. Plus, in a developed country I'd have better chances to get out of poverty some day.

I would not want to be poor in the US though.
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Old 04-21-2015, 01:37 PM
 
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I'd rather be poor in a developed nation. Two words: safety and corruption. I'd rather not have a car to drive but feel safe while I am walking/riding a bus around the town, than have one and worry all the time that it will be stolen. I'd also rather not have much money but also not worry about having it taken away by criminals or having to spend it on bribing corrupt bureaucrats. Plus, in a developed country I'd have better chances to get out of poverty some day.

I would not want to be poor in the US though.
You think Detroit or Chicago is safe?
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Old 04-21-2015, 01:52 PM
 
Location: Between the Alps and the North Sea
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You think Detroit or Chicago is safe?
Detroit - no, Chicago - depending on the neighborhood. But I would not want to be poor in either.
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