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Originally Posted by MACelticPrincess
I notice the two posters that replied to me are from Ulster, interesting. My grandfather came from Derry in the 1950s and he is still living in that era in his mind.
You have to understand that there were 2 major waves of the Irish along with smaller ones. The first was around the potato famine. The second wave was around 1900-1940, although that second wave slowed a bit in 1921 when quotas were instituted. The descendents of that generation tend to identify with Ireland more. They were raised by Irish immigrants or they are the grandchild of one. That wave of Irish people didn't come here because they hated Ireland. They came because of the Irish Civil war, for religious reason, for better opportunities, but many of them viewed themselves as Irish until the day they died. They had a major influence on the Northeast.
It's much easier to feel Irish -American or Italian- american if your grandparents were Irish.
I also think that my friends who had Irish Granparents were entitled to be Irish Citizens via their Grandparents, and I'm pretty sure some were Dual American/Irish citizens though raised in the USA. Ireland has generous citizenship laws.
I also think that my friends who had Irish Granparents were entitled to be Irish Citizens via their Grandparents, and I'm pretty sure some were Dual American/Irish citizens though raised in the USA. Ireland has generous citizenship laws.
Yes if you have one Irish Grandparent and can get their birth certificate you can obtain Irish citizenship. I would suggest that anyone who can get Irish citizenship through a grandparent get it before they have children as then you can pass it on to your children. If you obtain Irish citizenship through a Grandparent after the birth of your children they can't obtain Irish citizenship.
If you are entitled to register, your Irish citizenship is effective from the date of registration. The Irish citizenship of successive generations may be maintained in this way by each generation ensuring their registration in the Foreign Births Register before the birth of the next generation.
Since 1 July 1986, a person registered in the Foreign Births Entry Book after 1986 is deemed to be an Irish citizen only from the date of his/her entry in the Register and not from the date of birth. This means that children born to that person before his/her date of entry in the Register are not entitled to citizenship.
Australia is also very Irish. A lot of the convicts were actually Irish (Ireland was ruled by Britain in the 18th and 19th centuries), I've heard like 1/4 to 1/3. And you had a lot of Irish immigrants, from the potato famine, and because life was seen as better here. The Irish have influenced Australian culture a lot: the Eureka stockade, a lot of our famous poets like Banjo Patterson, country music in Australia. The Australian Labor Party (ALP) has always had a strong Irish Catholic component, and there was a division between the dominant Anglo-Protestants and Irish-Catholics. A lot of Australians have Irish ancestry. In Melbourne where I live at least 1/4 of people might have some Irish ancestry, or at least 1/4 of European descended people. Plus we get a lot of Irish backpackers, people on working holidays, tourists, and there's still a decent flow of Irish immigrants along with those from the UK.
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Yeah Boston might be a good guess.
Australia is also very Irish. A lot of the convicts were actually Irish (Ireland was ruled by Britain in the 18th and 19th centuries), I've heard like 1/4 to 1/3. And you had a lot of Irish immigrants, from the potato famine, and because life was seen as better here. The Irish have influenced Australian culture a lot: the Eureka stockade, a lot of our famous poets like Banjo Patterson, country music in Australia. The Australian Labor Party (ALP) has always had a strong Irish Catholic component, and there was a division between the dominant Anglo-Protestants and Irish-Catholics. A lot of Australians have Irish ancestry. In Melbourne where I live at least 1/4 of people might have some Irish ancestry, or at least 1/4 of European descended people. Plus we get a lot of Irish backpackers, people on working holidays, tourists, and there's still a decent flow of Irish immigrants along with those from the UK.
Its not anglo protestants but ulster scots. I don't know if I like the Irish backpackers, very embaressing drinking and making idiots of themselves. They probably couldn't spot me though as I don't walk around in those revolting GAA shirts.
My vote goes to the Boston area. My town south of Boston is majority Irish descended, and in the area of Boston I am from (Neponset, Dorchester) you hear plenty of Irish brogues on the street, and not from older folks but from young recent immigrants. The view from my grandparents back window is a mural of Eamon de Valera and an Orange, White and Green tricolor.
Thoughts and opinions?
boston is seen as the most irish city outside Ireland , Liverpool second
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