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Old 09-20-2015, 11:36 PM
 
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Thanks for that, always had the feeling ny had more overall, but I'm certain Melbourne would have more Greek speakers, can see toronto pulling well ahead of Chicago should crack the 100,000 mark by the next census. Add Sydney and that's your top 5 major Greek populated cities, honorable mentions to Montreal and Boston.
I haven't looked, but why do you say that? I don't think there will be much difference in number of Greek speakers. Most Greeks in New York are post-WWII, just like in Melbourne.
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Old 09-20-2015, 11:44 PM
 
Location: Texas
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I dunno about feel, but just about every single greek person I know moved to wherever I met them from...New York.

Also, this thread has made me hungry. Lucky for me, lots of delicious greek food even here in Texas.
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Old 09-20-2015, 11:51 PM
 
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I'm from Northcote, massive greek and Italian area in the 90s, area has gentrified a lot in the last 10 years, feels like every week some new hipster cafe opens and an old school greek or Italian business closes it doors. Melbourne has a decent selection of tavernas and souvlaki joints but the nightlife is definitely dead, and yes I'm greek. As far as New York goes I think greeks have fled to the suburbs of New Jersey and Long Island because it's probably easier to raise a family there and its a reminder of what Greece is most like outside Athens...don't think greeks enjoy living in an apartment building, I have 2 uncles that lived in Manhattan up until the 80s both have since moved to northern New Jersey and their kids followed.
hmm. Stalactites....always stopped there after being out. Its soooo hard to find a decent souvlaki in Sydney!!
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Old 09-21-2015, 04:12 AM
 
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Updated to include Sydney:

New York MSA 178,959
Greater Melbourne 154,244
Greater Sydney 112,852
Toronto CMA 96,430
Chicago MSA 96,010
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Old 09-21-2015, 05:13 AM
 
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I haven't looked, but why do you say that? I don't think there will be much difference in number of Greek speakers. Most Greeks in New York are post-WWII, just like in Melbourne.
I don't think the difference would be much, but I recall Melbourne has around 113,000 Greek speakers out of 154,000 that's a very high ratio.

Would also be interesting to see the Greek Cypriot population of these cities as they pretty much blend in with the Greeks.

The Australian census is much more simpler as it just asks you to select which languages you speak, where as in North America it asks you more specifically what language you speak at home...is that correct? a family could just speak English at home but still know how to speak Greek, Italian or whatever if they are 3rd generation or something.

Btw with the financial crisis in Greece you could automatically add on about 10,000 to all those cities listed.

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Old 09-21-2015, 01:50 PM
 
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The Australian census is much more simpler as it just asks you to select which languages you speak, where as in North America it asks you more specifically what language you speak at home...is that correct? a family could just speak English at home but still know how to speak Greek, Italian or whatever if they are 3rd generation or something.
Well that would explain why Australia comes out high. Still there's no doubt that the Greek presence in Melbourne is large and one of the city's largest ethnic groups. In New York and Toronto, they're there just group among many.

Regarding NYC (city only):

"The 2009 American Community Survey put the figure of people who claim Greek ancestry in New York City at 91,289, making up 1.08% of the whole NYC population. Of those who claimed Greek ancestry in NYC in 2009, 31,707 (35%) are foreign born and 56,688 (62%) speak Greek at home...Additionally, of those who do speak Greek at home in NYC, 38,536 (42%) claim to speak English very well and 18,152 (20%) claim to speak English less than very well. The percentages of those who speak Greek and do not speak English very well are much higher in NYC than in other parts of the country, suggesting that the high concentration of Greek speakers in one area contributes to a more bilingual community."

(2012) Going to Greek school: The politics of religion, identity and culture in community-based Greek language schools | Maria Hantzopoulos - Academia.edu
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Old 09-21-2015, 02:01 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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When I first went to Australia, I recall seeing this:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n06G9mu34SM
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Old 09-21-2015, 02:07 PM
 
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62% greek speaking ratio for new York city is higher than I expected, if you include the metro area overall you would think it would be close to the 100,000 mark..not far off Melbourne at all.

31,000 born in Greece in new york, in Melbourne it's about 47,000 I think, but again if you add the metro area overall it would be close to even once again.

Either way new york and Melbourne are definately the big 2. Think it just comes down to what you define as a city, you would think the Greeks that live in long island and northern new jersey would have originally been from the city. Here it's just greater Melbourne and the outer burbs are still part of the city.
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Old 09-21-2015, 02:40 PM
 
Location: Somewhere flat in Mississippi
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Although it's not a city, there seems more "Greekness" per capita outside of Greece in...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarpon_Springs,_Florida
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Old 09-21-2015, 04:13 PM
 
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When I first went to Australia, I recall seeing this:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n06G9mu34SM
This was one of the most popular shows in Australia during the late 80s and early 90s
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