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View Poll Results: Which has better natural scenery, California or Italy?
California 147 54.44%
Italy 123 45.56%
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Old 07-06-2015, 10:35 AM
 
Location: near Turin (Italy)
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thread's making me want to move to Italy ASAP
Instead I'm starting to wonder why I stay close in my home studying all the day, while I live relatively near to a lot of those places

Anyway, I just found something else which seems interesting.

Looking at the list of the UNESCO world heritage sites, only the natural ones of course, I've found that we have more of those sites than California (4 vs 2)

UNESCO World Heritage Centre - Interactive Maps

(natural sites are the green round dots)

Italy:
- Isole Eolie:
http://whc.unesco.org/en/list/908/gallery/

(anyway, I'm quite sure that Italy has more little island than California. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_islands_of_Italy )

-Monte San Giorgio (this place is famous for its fossils):
http://whc.unesco.org/en/list/1090/gallery/
https://www.google.it/search?q=Isole...gxMoXKXhr-M%3A

-Dolomiti:
http://whc.unesco.org/en/list/1237/gallery/

-Etna:
http://whc.unesco.org/en/list/1427/gallery/


Instead for California:
-Redwood National and State Parks:
http://whc.unesco.org/en/list/134/gallery/

-Yosemite National Park:
http://whc.unesco.org/en/list/308/gallery/



Some other random places here in Italy (NOT Unesco sites, or at least not yet):

-Circeo park (Lazio): https://www.google.it/search?q=Parco...rco+del+circeo

-parco della Sila, Calabria (according to the previous biome map, this area should be under the "Mediterranean biome". As you can see, there is a quite big variability within areas classified as a single biome.) :
https://www.google.it/search?q=parco...ed=0CAYQ_AUoAQ

-murge di Altamura (Apulia) https://www.google.it/search?q=parco...ge+di+altamura

- the white marble rocks in Carrara (a lot of this area is a cave, but not all of this)
https://www.google.it/search?q=cave+...-BuA0SgvswM%3A

- this one probably is not valid, so that is a piece of sea, but when I went there I liked it a lot:
the "Sea Cetacean Sanctuary". It is a piece of sea in which Cetaceans are protected. It's really easy to see dolphins and little whales there
https://www.google.it/search?q=santu...ed=0CAYQ_AUoAQ

- Karstic caves: we have quite a lot of those, in a lot of different places of the country.
Es: "Grotta Gigante", Trieste. According to the " Guinness Book of Records", this is the world's largest tourist cave.
https://www.google.it/search?q=grott...ed=0CAYQ_AUoAQ

Es Castellano Grotte (Apulia) https://www.google.it/search?q=grott...ellana+Grotte+

-Campi Flegrei: a volcanic area near Naples, famous for its "Solfatara craters":
https://www.google.it/search?q=campi...grei+solfatara

-the Po delta: https://www.google.it/search?hl=it&s...kwVYP12x6iM%3A
That one is a really humid area...

and, finally
-Arcipelago della Maddalena, Sardinia: https://www.google.it/search?q=campi...ella+maddalena
(why am I here and not there now, why? )
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Old 07-06-2015, 01:23 PM
 
Location: Mid Atlantic USA
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Those beaches are not just more beautiful than anything in Cali, they are more beautiful than beaches anywhere in the US. The Med beaches are just far more beautiful than any beaches in the US East Coast or West Coast. The US waters are no where near as clear as that. And Hawaii is a tiny, tiny part of the US, and not all of the islands are covered in beaches. Italy has far more naturally beautiful beaches than California, and far warmer.

And yes the mountains in CA like the rest of the lower 48 states are more rounded and not as steep and impressive as the Alps.

Americans have a hard time grasping the fact that the US is not the most beautiful country in the world, nor the most diverse. Vast majority of the US is just same same. Same with the climate in the vast majority of the US: cold winters and warm summers.
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Old 07-06-2015, 02:27 PM
 
Location: San Diego, California Republic
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Italy.

California is basically desert to the south and forest to the north. It could pass as any American, and even Australian, regions.
Where did you go in California?
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Old 07-06-2015, 02:36 PM
 
Location: San Diego, California Republic
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The OP asked me to pick one of the two and I gave an opinion.

In comparison, Italy is still more diverse and stunning. And yes, in a nutshell, California is desert to the south, a bit mountainous to the centre and forest to the north. Not sure why you're being defensive.
^^^Proof you don't know what you're talking about. The center of California is flat. Very flat, it's why we call it the Central Valley LOL. MOST of California is actually mountains. Desert makes up 25-30% of it and forest, while more common in the north are scattered throughout the state.

Just to help you and others out:

California's east is made up of the tallest (not necessarily highest, two different things) mountains in North America. The mountains to the north are the southern part of the volcanic Cascade mts. Almost the entire coast is made up of the low altitude coast ranges. San Francisco's hills are the northern most part of the Santa Cruz mts. The Transverse range cross southern CA. The Central Valley is the most fertile grassland on the continent. California has two types of desert; Mojave and the very barren Colorado. As I mentioned earlier, more species of pines are found here than in any other comparable sized region in the world. Many plants and animals are endemic.

There's a good starting point for you.
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Old 07-06-2015, 02:43 PM
 
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Wrong, 4000ers can be found in the Italian regions of the Piedmont and the Lombardy as well.
Italy Province High Points - Peakbagger.com

And yes they are mostly on the border to Switzerland and France, but what does it matter.
These peaks are also generally steeper, more rugged and more glaciated than the 4000er peaks of California.
I should have added with any reasonable prominence (300m or above) otherwise you are really talking about subpeaks.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...s_above_3000_m

Their location matters greatly in terms of the regions diversity.

Italy has 4 peaks above 4000m with +500m prominence. The peak of Mont Blanc is actually in France, not in Italy, so including that one is a bit of a stretch. California on the other hand has 16 and they are located all over the state, not in a tiny corner. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._of_California

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Old 07-06-2015, 02:43 PM
 
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California is so marketing opposite Italy is true very awesome scenary. Cali beaches is very cold.

Not like this:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sicily..._Lampedusa.JPG

Catania
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sicily...d_Catania1.jpg

Provinces:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Region...pecial_statute
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Old 07-06-2015, 02:45 PM
 
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Those beaches are not just more beautiful than anything in Cali, they are more beautiful than beaches anywhere in the US. The Med beaches are just far more beautiful than any beaches in the US East Coast or West Coast. The US waters are no where near as clear as that. And Hawaii is a tiny, tiny part of the US, and not all of the islands are covered in beaches. Italy has far more naturally beautiful beaches than California, and far warmer.

And yes the mountains in CA like the rest of the lower 48 states are more rounded and not as steep and impressive as the Alps.

Americans have a hard time grasping the fact that the US is not the most beautiful country in the world, nor the most diverse. Vast majority of the US is just same same. Same with the climate in the vast majority of the US: cold winters and warm summers.
It might seem like that if you live in the Mid-Atlantic. Name one country in the world that is more diverse. China is the second most diverse, but China and the USA are vastly more diverse than any other country.

The water in California isn't as clear, because it is very deep and the waves are bigger. The shelf off of California provides one of the most interesting marine environments on the planet. California absolutely dominates Italy in terms of animal life and plant life. Beaches in Italy are ruined by a massive amount of people and infrastructure.

Hawaii blows away anything in the Mediterranean.

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Old 07-06-2015, 03:09 PM
 
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Did you miss the fact that this thread is ONLY about natural scenery?
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Old 07-06-2015, 05:37 PM
 
Location: San Diego, California Republic
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Did you miss the fact that this thread is ONLY about natural scenery?
Seems like a few people have missed that.
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