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Old 09-27-2015, 05:28 PM
 
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One simple way of measuring diversity is to count the number countries of represented. I used the cut-off of 5000 for a "community" - so at least 5000 born in a country to qualify.

This of course excludes the children and grandchildren of immigrants, but here this is a clear measurable that's pretty comparable across countries (and avoids questions of whether a fourth generation American who is half Polish should count as "Polish" etc.)

Here's some data from the US, the UK, Canada and Australia:

# of countries represented

New York MSA 89 (Europe: 25, Asia: 25, Africa: 11, Americas: 27, Oceania: 1)
Greater London 80 (Europe: 26, Asia: 22, Africa: 19, Americas: 11, Oceania: 2)
Toronto CMA 70 (Europe: 22, Asia: 22, Africa: 9, Americas: 17)
Los Angeles MSA 59 (Europe: 14, Asia: 24, Africa: 4, Americas: 16, Oceania: 1)
Greater Sydney 53 (Europe: 17, Asia: 22, Africa: 4, Americas: 6)
Washington MSA 49 (Europe: 6, Asia: 16, Africa: 8, Americas: 19)
Greater Melbourne 46 (Europe: 16, Asia: 21, Africa: 4, Americas: 3)
Miami MSA 45 (Europe: 7, Asia: 13, Americas: 25)
Chicago MSA 44 (Europe: 16, Asia: 15, Africa: 2, Americas: 11)
Montreal CMA 41 (Europe: 13, Asia: 14, Africa: 5, Oceania: 9)
Boston MSA 38 (Europe: 11, Asia: 10, Africa: 5, Americas: 12)
San Francisco MSA 32 (Europe: 7, Asia: 15, Africa: 1, Americas: 8)
Houston MSA 28 (Europe: 3, Asia: 10, Africa: 2, Americas: 13)
Vancouver CMA 25 (Europe: 9, Asia: 11, Africa: 1, Americas: 2, Oceania: 2)

This is of course far from an exhaustive list. There may be some other US cities worthy of mention and of course, cities outside the anglosphere which I haven't yet looked at the data for.
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Old 09-27-2015, 05:34 PM
 
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One simple way of measuring diversity is to count the number countries of represented. I used the cut-off of 5000 for a "community" - so at least 5000 born in a country to qualify.

Wouldn't it be better to pro-rata the cut off based on the total population of the city? 5,000 in a city of 3 million is a lot "larger" than 5,000 in city of 10 million, for example.
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Old 09-27-2015, 07:22 PM
 
Location: Canada
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Yeah I find it hard to believe Toronto would have more countries from the Americas represented than LA.
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Old 09-28-2015, 01:12 AM
 
Location: BC Canada
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It really exemplifies how Vancouver is not near as cosmopolitan as it claims to be. There are certainly a lot of visible minorities in Vancouver but outside of the Chinese, Filipinos, and Indians, it is very much still a rather WASPY city. Those 3 groups vastly outnumber all others and the Chinese VASTLY out number the other 2 in economic, social, and political influence.
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Old 09-28-2015, 02:25 AM
 
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Yeah, Vancouver really lacks "ethnic whites" compared to Toronto and Montreal, as well as having no Caribbean presence of any note. Basically WASP-Asian, as you say.
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Old 09-28-2015, 02:26 AM
 
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Yeah I find it hard to believe Toronto would have more countries from the Americas represented than LA.
Lots of Caribbean nations represented in Toronto.
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Old 09-28-2015, 02:32 AM
 
Location: 🇬🇧 In jolly old London! 🇬🇧
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London has every colour under the rainbow! As diverse as it gets ( in Europe for certain )
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Old 09-28-2015, 02:53 AM
 
Location: Brisbane
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One simple way of measuring diversity is to count the number countries of represented. I used the cut-off of 5000 for a "community" - so at least 5000 born in a country to qualify.

This of course excludes the children and grandchildren of immigrants, but here this is a clear measurable that's pretty comparable across countries (and avoids questions of whether a fourth generation American who is half Polish should count as "Polish" etc.)

Here's some data from the US, the UK, Canada and Australia:

# of countries represented

New York MSA 89 (Europe: 25, Asia: 25, Africa: 11, Americas: 27, Oceania: 1)
Greater London 80 (Europe: 26, Asia: 22, Africa: 19, Americas: 11, Oceania: 2)
Toronto CMA 70 (Europe: 22, Asia: 22, Africa: 9, Americas: 17)
Los Angeles MSA 59 (Europe: 14, Asia: 24, Africa: 4, Americas: 16, Oceania: 1)
Greater Sydney 53 (Europe: 17, Asia: 22, Africa: 4, Americas: 6)
Washington MSA 49 (Europe: 6, Asia: 16, Africa: 8, Americas: 19)
Greater Melbourne 46 (Europe: 16, Asia: 21, Africa: 4, Americas: 3)
Miami MSA 45 (Europe: 7, Asia: 13, Americas: 25)
Chicago MSA 44 (Europe: 16, Asia: 15, Africa: 2, Americas: 11)
Montreal CMA 41 (Europe: 13, Asia: 14, Africa: 5, Oceania: 9)
Boston MSA 38 (Europe: 11, Asia: 10, Africa: 5, Americas: 12)
San Francisco MSA 32 (Europe: 7, Asia: 15, Africa: 1, Americas: 8)
Houston MSA 28 (Europe: 3, Asia: 10, Africa: 2, Americas: 13)
Vancouver CMA 25 (Europe: 9, Asia: 11, Africa: 1, Americas: 2, Oceania: 2)

This is of course far from an exhaustive list. There may be some other US cities worthy of mention and of course, cities outside the anglosphere which I haven't yet looked at the data for.
The Australian figures at least, don't include anybody who did not complete the census form. In reality their should be 5 or 6 more countries added to both the Sydney and Melbourne totals.
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Old 09-28-2015, 04:08 AM
 
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The Australian figures at least, don't include anybody who did not complete the census form. In reality their should be 5 or 6 more countries added to both the Sydney and Melbourne totals.
And no communities from Oceania listed for Sydney and Melbourne Given the number Maori, Samoans, Tongans and others from the SW Pacific you find in those cities, it's surprising not to see them recognised.

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Old 09-28-2015, 04:33 AM
 
Location: Eindhoven, Netherlands
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And no communities from Oceania listed for Sydney and Melbourne Given the number Maori, Samoans, Tongans and others from the SW Pacific you find in those cities, it's surprising not to see them recognised.
Sydney and Melbourne are in Oceania.
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