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I probably should have edited this post when I had the chance. Look, it's granted that there will be some of them that will care, but I still cannot see the majority of Russian Americans or Immigrants caring and following the news and what not, even if they moved here in their teen years.
As I said before, I have met a few Russian, Ukrainian and Belorussian girls here who have only moved here around 4-6 years ago and somehow have American accents, namely cause they are trying to blend in (despite the fact that I can still hear their actual Slavic accents every now and then).
I could see some of them caring, no doubt! But I can also see them not being entirely one-sided so to speak and read, listen and watch only Russian Media outlets like how Russians in Russia are as of current.
NOTE: I should have put this up in my initial post, I am currently taking a Russian language class as of this year in college! On a side note, I am about a year from graduating!
I've read this whole thread and as yet to read one answer on what Russian American's/visitors to the West or Europe for that matter.?? How they view Putin or what he is doing supporting a slaughterer Assad? Never mind lying as to what he is doing versus the truth of what is he doing.??????
I watched Syria's Ambassador to USA talk to day on MSM..He basically said it..Russia views anyone against the Assad dictatorship as "Terrorists"..so choses to kill those who are actually making inroads against his leadership. But what I couldn't understand with this Ambassador was him suggesting that Syria is a Sovereign Nation and needs their rights recognized blah blah...and allow true Syrians to voice their demands and allow Assad to deal with it to create a harmonious Country....
I about choked on my coffee....The In-house Syrian DID PROTEST PEACEFULLY and they got bombed/Gassed/and slaughtered..so they sought help....That is just like what Putin does in Russia..Has some Goon Sqaud kill any dissident ..and claim IDK?????Investigation..??? Nope don't know Nuttin!!
Ambassador sounded too full of Putin Rhetoric! I wonder why it took him so long to even have the nerve to go public?? Oh I know..he had to have a crash course in order to maintain that straight face..and answer the bullet points dictated to him by Putin...Assad is a lost cause in the rest of world's eyes..Only Russia and Iran actually support Assad the Butcher!!
I would love Turkey to nail one of Russian Bomber Jets if comes 1 cm past that boarder!!
Anyway...Do Russian American's who hear both sides of the issue have anything to say?? Maybe they are too scared IF they do..something will happen to their family back in Russia??? It wouldn't be the first time that has been suggested!
This is a good topic for "erasure" (our prolific and informative Russian member in the US, not "erasure" as in--delete thread, lol! )
OP, I think it's fairly safe to assume that most Russians living in the US, and not in Russia, are here because they voted with their feet. If you get my drift. Kind of a no-brainer, really.
But conversely, you should not assume that just because lots of Russians are still living in Russia that that means they approve of the regime. There are people who love their country and don't want to abandon it just because it's taken a step or two backwards, politically, in some ways. They want to try to improve it, even though that seems like a hopeless task. That is true patriotism, if you ask me.
There definitely is an opposition. So please don't paint all Russia's citizens with the same brush.
I won't lie, it's a hard road! But I hope to become fluent with the Russian language and go over to Russia one day! St. Petersburg is awesome and I would love to see the Winter Palace, especially since I am a massive fan of Eastern European history, which includes Russian history! The Tsarist period of Russia has always been my favorite part of Russian history ever since I learned about it in my world history classes!
On the other note! I cannot wait to graduate, I am so close, but I still got a year to go! If only time would go faster. Can't wait till I am out of school and in the real world!
Where are you studying, and what is your degree in? I just spoke with one of the UW's Russia specialists today (U of WA), and she said the US gov't has stopped researching Russia. At least, they're not spending any money on research and analysis anymore. Hard to believe. Anyway, I'm not sure what you think you're going to do for a career. You're in such a hurry to finish school and get out into the real world, but what are your plans? Reality can be cruel. Consider, perhaps, going to grad school.
This is a good topic for "erasure" (our prolific and informative Russian member in the US, not "erasure" as in--delete thread, lol! )
OP, I think it's fairly safe to assume that most Russians living in the US, and not in Russia, are here because they voted with their feet. If you get my drift. Kind of a no-brainer, really.
But conversely, you should not assume that just because lots of Russians are still living in Russia that that means they approve of the regime. There are people who love their country and don't want to abandon it just because it's taken a step or two backwards, politically, in some ways. They want to try to improve it, even though that seems like a hopeless task. That is true patriotism, if you ask me.
There definitely is an opposition. So please don't paint all Russia's citizens with the same brush.
I don't quite get what you mean on the first part of your response, but oh well. Maybe you can enlighten me more on that one.
I do believe what you said about how not all Russians in Russia are pro-Putin and his actions, etc. is correct and definitely applies with Russians in America. So I will not lump them all in the same boat.
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Where are you studying, and what is your degree in? I just spoke with one of the UW's Russia specialists today (U of WA), and she said the US gov't has stopped researching Russia. At least, they're not spending any money on research and analysis anymore. Hard to believe. Anyway, I'm not sure what you think you're going to do for a career. You're in such a hurry to finish school and get out into the real world, but what are your plans? Reality can be cruel. Consider, perhaps, going to grad school.
I'm studying at Sacramento State University. My degree is in English and Writing. I wish to be an author and screenwriter for movies.
My plans are to make successful stories in the future. Medieival Fantasy is my passion. That said, I wish to make books that will rival that of J.R.R. Tolkein's Legendarium. Big ambitions I know, I also know how cruel the real world can be. Or at least I think so that is.
That said, this one is a little bit different and has more detail overall!
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I know that most Russians in Russia support Putin and his actions in Ukraine, but I do wonder what Russians abroad, especially in the United States think.
One of the reasons why I am asking this is because I live in Sacramento where there happens to be a lot of Russians living around me.
That being said, all that I want to know is the following:
Are Russians living abroad I.E. living in the EU and United States different than Russians in the Russian Federation in terms of education and ideology I.E. who and what they support and oppose when it comes to politics?
Are most of the young Russians ages 18-35(Particularly the ones who have moved to the U.S.A. to work and study here or have lived here most of their lives)in the United States big supporters of Putin, the annexation of Crimea and the war in Ukraine and Syria? Or do they for the most part care little about politics as well whereas the Russians who are supporters of Putin and the war in Ukraine do not travel to the United States and live over in Russia??
If I as an American citizen were to meet a Russian girl who is a citizen of the United States, would she most likely be a supporter of Putin, annexing Crimea and the war in Ukraine and Syria? Or are the Russians that are citizens of the United States for the most part neutral when it comes to these two crisis'? I really would like to know!
NOTE 1: I have nothing against Russia or it's people!!
It's just Putin that I am against! Him along with Xi Jinping and Ali Khamenei. That said, don't take this question the wrong way!
Ok, per your request Aethalstad, ( and for you Ruth, if you are interested in my opinion, ) here it comes;
I suspect that the latest escapades in Syria rallied even more Russians behind Putin than during Ukrainian crisis ( some were not happy about his handling of Donbass, as happy as they were with Crimean takeover.) What Russians basically see in current Syrian situation, is that their national interests have been hit directly yet again by the US, (next after Ukrainian ordeal,) with their attempt to unseat Assad ( who as they know is an ally of Russia.) That Assad is a "bloody tyrant" - the image that Western media is trying to project - they don't believe in that. Number one - Saudi Arabia that the US have no problems with apparently, is no democracy and number two - the US would love to unseat Putin as well, pointing at the dictatorial nature of his presidency. ( Yet for obvious reasons Russians are not willing to part with him.)
My personal opinion about Putin didn't change, except for now ( more than ever, more than in case with Donbass) he is forced to act against his original wishes ( that is to "stay friends" with the West - Europe first of all.) He is pushed now to defend not only the mercantile interests of his ruling class, but the interests that are vital for Russia as a nation. You can blame "old Europe" for that ( they refused overall to embrace the "New Russians" as their own,) but in my case - I actually thank them for that.
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NOTE 2: I noticed that among youth in most countries overall (Regardless of Ethnicity or Nationality) that when it comes to politics, may it be foreign policy or domestic, guys usually for the most part care more about politics than women who for the most part don't. Correct me if I am wrong, but since I am a college student, that is what I have witnessed as of recent.
No, I don't think that younger people ( and girls in particular) are all that interested in politics; for the most part they repeat what they hear from older generation on a subject, and Russians are not an exception.
P.S. I was reading on what "Putin's opposition" had to say regrading Russian involvement in Syria.
Two major concerns for now that I can see - the cost of operation and Russia's vulnerability to Islamic radicals attacks; their growing aggression towards Russia.
I agree with erasure that most Russian's view Putin's actions in Syria positively, whether that be in Russia or outside of Russia. I know that I do and those that I know of do to.
I don't quite get what you mean on the first part of your response, but oh well. Maybe you can enlighten me more on that one.
I do believe what you said about how not all Russians in Russia are pro-Putin and his actions, etc. is correct and definitely applies with Russians in America. So I will not lump them all in the same boat.
I'm studying at Sacramento State University. My degree is in English and Writing. I wish to be an author and screenwriter for movies.
My plans are to make successful stories in the future. Medieival Fantasy is my passion. That said, I wish to make books that will rival that of J.R.R. Tolkein's Legendarium. Big ambitions I know, I also know how cruel the real world can be. Or at least I think so that is.
I meant if Russians are here, or in the West, they're not into Putin's Russia. Otherwise they wouldn't have left.
RE: the bolded--study Russian folklore. I know a guy in Russia who created a game based on medieval Russian culture as reflected in folklore, and Disney offered him major bucks to sell the game. He refused. Russian folklore is very rich.
Ok, per your request Aethalstad, ( and for you Ruth, if you are interested in my opinion, ) here it comes;
I suspect that the latest escapades in Syria rallied even more Russians behind Putin than during Ukrainian crisis ( some were not happy about his handling of Donbass, as happy as they were with Crimean takeover.) What Russians basically see in current Syrian situation, is that their national interests have been hit directly yet again by the US, (next after Ukrainian ordeal,) with their attempt to unseat Assad ( who as they know is an ally of Russia.) That Assad is a "bloody tyrant" - the image that Western media is trying to project - they don't believe in that. Number one - Saudi Arabia that the US have no problems with apparently, is no democracy and number two - the US would love to unseat Putin as well, pointing at the dictatorial nature of his presidency. ( Yet for obvious reasons Russians are not willing to part with him.)
My personal opinion about Putin didn't change, except for now ( more than ever, more than in case with Donbass) he is forced to act against his original wishes ( that is to "stay friends" with the West - Europe first of all.) He is pushed now to defend not only the mercantile interests of his ruling class, but the interests that are vital for Russia as a nation. You can blame "old Europe" for that ( they refused overall to embrace the "New Russians" as their own,) but in my case - I actually thank them for that.
Thank you for your response! Very well appreciated my friend and +rep.
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No, I don't think that younger people ( and girls in particular) are all that interested in politics; for the most part they repeat what they hear from older generation on a subject, and Russians are not an exception.
Now one thing about this is that I certainly hope that the youth or younger generations for the most part formulate their own opinion when it comes down to it all. Likewise, Russians are not an exception to this.
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P.S. I was reading on what "Putin's opposition" had to say regrading Russian involvement in Syria.
Two major concerns for now that I can see - the cost of operation and Russia's vulnerability to Islamic radicals attacks; their growing aggression towards Russia.
Interesting. I wonder where the opposition will go from here.
I meant if Russians are here, or in the West, they're not into Putin's Russia. Otherwise they wouldn't have left.
RE: the bolded--study Russian folklore. I know a guy in Russia who created a game based on medieval Russian culture as reflected in folklore, and Disney offered him major bucks to sell the game. He refused. Russian folklore is very rich.
Good luck with your dreams.
Thank you for clearing things up again. +rep.
Also, I appreciate what you said about my goals! Can't wait for them to become a reality!
Thank you for your response! Very well appreciated my friend and +rep.
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Now one thing about this is that I certainly hope that the youth or younger generations for the most part formulate their own opinion when it comes down to it all. Likewise, Russians are not an exception to this.
Aethalsad... Look around. Look at American youngsters - at American girls in particular. What understanding do they have in international politics? And how much of "their own opinion" do they formulate?
Well Russian girls are not different in this respect.
I wish I could tell you that I was not interested at that age in politics either, but I can't.
I think I was sitting on my potty and they were already talking politics to me. So I was conditioned by the older generation in my family ( and not only) to take note of politics from the early age on, but it's not a regular occurrence ( at least for Russia.)
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Interesting. I wonder where the opposition will go from here.
Not too far I'd think. (Even less so than in case with Ukraine anti-government's rallies I'd guess.)
These are mostly the same people who insist that the 90ies were "good period" in Russian history, because of the arrival of "freedom" and what's not. The majority of Russians happen to think that those were really disastrous years, so chances that they'll agree with these people on anything are really miniscule.
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