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Old 07-23-2016, 11:53 AM
 
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The threads answer your question.
What threads? We're discussing what you claimed in this thread. You're not being serious, i'm going to take the advice of the mods and report you.

 
Old 07-23-2016, 12:00 PM
 
Location: United Kingdom
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no need to produce evidence that it applies to the military.
Does Montesquieu allude to the military in his thesis? If not, then the burden of proof is on you, sorry.
 
Old 07-23-2016, 12:24 PM
 
Location: United Kingdom
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What threads? We're discussing what you claimed in this thread. You're not being serious, i'm going to take the advice of the mods and report you.
I remember from the Brexit thread you had trouble seeing hyperlinks. Let me try again:

//www.city-data.com/forum/polit...-congress.html
//www.city-data.com/forum/polit...-tyrant-2.html
//www.city-data.com/forum/polit...offense-5.html
//www.city-data.com/forum/polit...na-king-8.html
 
Old 07-23-2016, 12:30 PM
 
Location: San Diego, California Republic
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Correct.
And yet you still can't know what you think you know.
 
Old 07-23-2016, 12:32 PM
 
Location: San Diego, California Republic
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That's not an answer to the question Gentoo posed, and it's also a complete non-sequitur, and betrays a fundamental misunderstanding of how US government works.

The doctrine of Separation of Powers is not rigid and absolute, it's flexible. Your quotation above doesn't need to mention the military. The military is an agency of government that follows orders, not a branch of government that gives orders. You need to understand the distinction.

Your quotation doesn't mention lots of other government functions either, but that doesn't prevent the doctrine from applying to them. Just because its not in your quotation.........

The President has veto power over legislation. Congress can refuse to fund a Presidential request. The President and Congress can agree on a law, but only SCOTUS gets to say what the law actually means, and can strike it down if appropriate, unlike in the UK where Parliament is sovereign, and the courts much less powerful.
Thank you for decoding that and the great response. I could not figure out where he was going with that.
 
Old 07-23-2016, 12:39 PM
 
Location: United Kingdom
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And yet you still can't know what you think you know.
So, when all else fails, resort to obfuscation?

What you're probably confusing with separation of powers (which is specific to the structure of government) is the principle of delegation, which, though a different concept, does apply to the US military.
 
Old 07-23-2016, 01:04 PM
 
Location: San Diego, California Republic
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The kind of claims you mention, such as: "My papa is in the military and he says so", is anecdote. This is not really the same thing as "experience" (by which I presume you actually mean being a recognized authority on the subject).
That is not what I said LOL wow.

As CBMD said and I alluded to earlier, you just can't seem to get a grasp on how US government actually works. When I mentioned earlier that you cannot learn everything from reading the internet, your response about the separation of powers not mentioning the military proves that. No matter what you say or what you are able to read on the internet, this reality will not change. Believe what you want about a military coup from your UK perspective all you want. The reality is what it is and it makes no sense for me to argue with you over anymore. Your backhanded person almost attacks ( having trouble with hyperlinks, your papa was military etc.) are enough proof that you need to fill the space and attempt to attack the person posting rather than the content of their post.
 
Old 07-23-2016, 01:05 PM
 
Location: San Diego, California Republic
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So, when all else fails, resort to obfuscation?

What you're probably confusing with separation of powers (which is specific to the structure of government) is the principle of delegation, which, though a different concept, does apply to the US military.
You've done this before. Resorting to accusations of confusion and picking apart the post rather than actually responding.
 
Old 07-23-2016, 01:17 PM
 
Location: United Kingdom
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That is not what I said LOL wow.

As CBMD said and I alluded to earlier, you just can't seem to get a grasp on how US government actually works. When I mentioned earlier that you cannot learn everything from reading the internet, your response about the separation of powers not mentioning the military proves that. No matter what you say or what you are able to read on the internet, this reality will not change. Believe what you want about a military coup from your UK perspective all you want. The reality is what it is and it makes no sense for me to argue with you over anymore. Your backhanded person almost attacks ( having trouble with hyperlinks, your papa was military etc.) are enough proof that you need to fill the space and attempt to attack the person posting rather than the content of their post.
Sorry old friend, but you'll need to do better than this.

If I reference a Cornell University summation of the Constitutional Law in this area and Montesquieu's thesis on which the doctrine is based, you need to give me more than "just so" claims and anecdotes in return if you want to be seen as convincing.
 
Old 07-23-2016, 01:40 PM
 
Location: San Diego, California Republic
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Sorry old friend, but you'll need to do better than this.

If I reference a Cornell University summation of the Constitutional Law in this area and Montesquieu's thesis on which the doctrine is based, you need to give me more than "just so" claims and anecdotes in return if you want to be seen as convincing.
Still doesn't negate what I said.

Anyway, we are WAAAAAAAAY off topic here so let's get back to what non Americans (like yourself) think about Trump and why.
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