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Old 02-28-2016, 05:22 PM
 
Location: Somewhere in Southern Italy
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Originally Posted by Magnatomicflux View Post
Now, that's not fair, Ariete. Mr. Trump doesn't even know what the KKK is all about, apparently. lol








Donald Trump stumbles on David Duke, KKK - CNNPolitics.com


JAKE TAPPER (HOST): I want to ask you about the Anti-Defamation League, which this week called on you to publicly condemn unequivocally the racism of former KKK Grand Wizard David Duke, who recently said that voting against you at this point would be treason to your heritage. Will you unequivocally condemn David Duke and say that you don't want his vote or that of other white supremacists in this election?

DONALD TRUMP: Well just so you understand, I don't know anything about David Duke, OK? I don't know anything about what you're even talking about with white supremacy or white supremacists. So, I don't know. I don't know, did he endorse me, or what's going on? Because, you know, I know nothing about David Duke. I know nothing about white supremacists. And so you're asking me a question that I'm supposed to be talking about people that I know nothing about.

TAPPER: But I guess the question from the Anti-Defamation League is even if you don't know about their endorsement there are these groups and individuals endorsing you, would you just say unequivocally you condemn them and you don't want their support?

TRUMP: Well I have to look at the group. I don't know what group you are talking about, you wouldn't want me to condemn a group that I know nothing about; I'd have to look. If you would send me a list of the groups, I will do research on them and certainly I would disavow if I thought there was something wrong, but --

TAPPER: The Ku Klux Klan?

TRUMP: -- you may have groups in there that are totally fine and it would be very unfair. So give me a list of the groups, and I'll let you know.

TAPPER: OK, I mean I'm just talking about David Duke and the Ku Klux Klan here, but --

TRUMP: I don't know any -- honestly I don't know David Duke. I don't believe I've ever met him. I'm pretty sure I didn't meet him, and I just don't know anything about him.



The most ridiculous thing is that i have just read that Trump refused to enter into the Reform Party primary in 2000 because Duke had joined it choosing to walk out of it. You can read about it here

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Then Sanders is a Nazi as he defined himself a 'Socialist' and Hitler was the head of the National-SOCIALIST party, same reasoning.
Secondly, the quote is much more widespread than Mussolini.
That has a glorious origin and as such it is not 'bad' itself and this comes from a person who comes from the motherland of Mussolini (yes, I am Italian).
The problem is that the National Socialist party was Socialist only in name, Hitler himself thrived off of the support of the industrials, the higher classes and financiers.

By the way, the quote wasn't Mussolini's, Mussolini may have used it for its means but the same quote was already seen written on a building near the Piave front in the final year of World War One, one of the fighters had written it and it usually doesn't have a negative meaning on its own.

 
Old 02-28-2016, 05:22 PM
 
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Then Sanders is a Nazi as he defined himself a 'Socialist' and Hitler was the head of the National-SOCIALIST party, same reasoning.
Secondly, the quote is much more widespread than Mussolini.
That has a glorious origin and as such it is not 'bad' itself and this comes from a person who comes from the motherland of Mussolini (yes, I am Italian).
lol. Not quite.

It was tweeted by an account named Il Duce. I realise he doesn't know how to use Twitter, but an account named after him - and quoting Mussolini..... come on.
 
Old 02-28-2016, 05:37 PM
 
Location: Somewhere in Southern Italy
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lol. Not quite.

It was tweeted by an account named Il Duce. I realise he doesn't know how to use Twitter, but an account named after him - and quoting Mussolini..... come on.
Well, that changes everything

Anyway, the more time goes on the more i'm convincing myself that Trump is slowly destroying the credibility of the Republican party, the more he veers to the right and the louder he shouts the more it will near self destruction. I can see him winning the nomination but i can't see him winning neither the General Election nor the Republican party winning anything more than local and State elections in the Red States for next decade.
 
Old 02-28-2016, 05:46 PM
 
Location: Somewhere in Southern Italy
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To be frank, Europeans have been terrible at taking care of your own matters the last few hundred years. Maybe you have gotten better but I actually seriously doubt it. Still, I think we should pull all of our troops and support out of Europe and NATO and let you guys work/fight it out. In the long run, our Pacific neighbors are of greater interest for the future.
That's one of the reasons that pushed us to create the European Union, i would prefer if NATO was only comprised of European countries who could have joint military programs, bases and such (which would all be reserved for defense in case of war and nothing else) but at the moment it's only a pipe dream .
 
Old 02-28-2016, 05:54 PM
 
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By the way, the quote wasn't Mussolini's, Mussolini may have used it for its means but the same quote was already seen written on a building near the Piave front in the final year of World War One, one of the fighters had written it and it usually doesn't have a negative meaning on its own.
Not to get nitpicky, but... the popular attribution matters more than the actual origin which is far more obscure. If Mussolini's the one who popularized it, well...
 
Old 02-28-2016, 07:38 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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You must crapping your pants over our current administration.

But points well-received. Thanks.
Well of course a politician is a politician and there are probably a few if any society that reward the best people to the highest office of the land unfortunately.

The thing that strikes me the most about Trump is his temperament. He just flies off the handle so quickly and I don't think that is a good temperament for the leader of a nation. What if he's an angry drunk for example lol. I mean he is very abrasive and offensive 'sober' - imagine the potential after a few drinks. This is a man who would be in charge of the most powerful military in the world. I get that there are checks and balances but still, some of the things he has said and the way he has reacted has been just way over the top and just plain offensive to a civil human being. There is no grey with him, you're either a 'winner' or a 'loser' and if you run counter to his ideology, whatever inconsistent ideology that may be, you are labelled a 'loser' or a 'moron'
I mean what is this High School?

Its a common tactic for trump to call people losers. Not just as candidate Trump but when it comes to his 'opponents' in the business world or anyone critical. He called a British documentary filmmaker a 'loser' as well.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...cumentary.html

The fact that so far voters have rewarded this behaviour is well troubling to be honest. Yes I know, politicians are troubling as a lot unfortunately but this guy just seems to take vulgarity, abrasiveness, offensiveness and win at all costs to a rather unfortunate and seemingly dangerous level.

Anyway, its the choice of the American people.

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Old 02-28-2016, 07:40 PM
 
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You know earlier in the thread I stated I was warming to Trump because the rhetoric against him in the thread had reached proportions of epic ignorance and stupidity?

Well, it's happening again now.
Trump and the contrarians against the rest of the world? Bring it on.

Think your candidate can get two terms? I don't. Possibly one. It won't end well, in any case.

Besides, ranting about The Liberal Establishment is quite misguided. A large number of conservatives are not pleased with the orange clown's theatrics. He represents a certain type of narcissism that's a poor fit for public service. Gordon Gekko as leader of the free world just ain't gonna wash.
 
Old 02-28-2016, 07:41 PM
 
Location: United Kingdom
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Trump and the contrarians against the rest of the world? Bring it on.

Think your candidate can get two terms? I don't. Possibly one. It won't end well, in any case.
Well the walking catastrophe that is Obama got two terms and still managed to fool much of the nation that he's a vaguely competent president so anything is possible. And no, I'm in the UK presently, meaning Trump is not my "candidate".

The odd dumb comment or two is no big deal. But we've now had 3 or 4 pages of consistent solidified stupidity from his critics: misquotings, literacy fails and basic inability to understand what the Grand Toupee stands for. The whole point of his political polemic is to provoke this kind of frothing at the mouth hysteria and stupidity from his critics, showing the liberal establishment to be unfit for purpose. Mission accomplished, at least as far as this sub-forum is concerned.

Bring it on indeed.
 
Old 02-28-2016, 07:53 PM
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Location: Western Massachusetts
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Well the walking catastrophe that is Obama got two terms and still managed to fool much of the nation that he's a vaguely competent president so anything is possible.
And many would say the same about Bush, I wouldn't expect most Democrats as presidents to behave much differently than Obama.

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The odd dumb comment or two is no big deal. But we've now had 3 or 4 pages of consistent solidified stupidity from his critics: misquotings, literacy fails and basic inability to understand what the Grand Toupee stands for.
Since we're so dumb and incapable of understanding what he stands, perhaps you in with your superior intellect could help us understand what he stands for?
 
Old 02-28-2016, 07:54 PM
 
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Originally Posted by CTDominion View Post
Well the walking catastrophe that is Obama got two terms and still managed to fool much of the nation that he's a vaguely competent president so anything is possible. And no, I'm in the UK presently, meaning Trump is not my "candidate".

The odd dumb comment or two is no big deal. But we've now had 3 or 4 pages of consistent solidified stupidity from his critics: misquotings, literacy fails and basic inability to understand what the Grand Toupee stands for. The whole point of his political polemic is to provoke this kind of frothing at the mouth hysteria and stupidity from his critics, showing the liberal establishment to be unfit for purpose. Mission accomplished, at least as far as this sub-forum is concerned.

Bring it on indeed.
An agent provocateur for president? He just takes cheap shot after cheap shot, does a lot of rabble rousing, makes sure that there's room on the bandwagon for the KKK... that's not a movement that needs encouraging. Unfit for the job. But, it ain't my country. I just sit back with my popcorn and warm my toes as America burns.
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