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Old 12-11-2015, 11:24 AM
 
Location: London, UK
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Why would you guess that? Another possibility is that he's heard of them but believe they're moronic conspiracy theories with no evidence supporting them.
Do you believe their moronic?

There was a statistic claiming that the majority of Americans believe that 9/11 was an inside job and I'm with them when the events are told countless holes emerge from it.

Like how can a Skyscraper just collapse when a plane hits the top of the building? Surely the top of the building would come crushing down but the whole building crashing down like a controlled demolition?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqG6v7KZ_s8


Also there's many first hand observers claiming that there were bombings.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLlMXkWW_LM

Anyway lets not get off topic too much.

Back to Muslims and terrorism oh wait shall I say Right wing terrorism?

Far right terrorism surpasses Islamic terrorism in the States. Maybe Donald Trump should ban right wingers?
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Old 12-11-2015, 11:40 AM
 
Location: Fortaleza, Northeast of Brazil
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We can't accuse Muslims of being the inventors of terrorism, and we can't blame all Muslims for the terrorist acts done by a few.

That doesn't mean that we can not criticize most of the Muslim world for being intolerant and for treating women like sh*t.

Most of the Muslim world is indeed intolerant, and in most places where Muslims are majority, a person who is born in a Muslim family can never leave Islam, under risk of being beaten or even killed. In some of those places there are Christian minorities, BUT those Christians can never dare to try to convert a Muslim to another religion. It's not "freedom of religion" when you can't change your religion, and can't leave Islam if you don't believe in the Islamic dogma anymore.

Not to mention how women are treated in most of the Muslim world, like second class citizens and being under the constant threat of violence.

We should not stop criticizing those things, and we should not see those things as "normal".

"Cultural differences" are not excuse for treating women like sh*t and for killing people who change their religion.

Of course those are not causes that justify any military intervention. But I think the rest of the world should put diplomatic pressure on Muslim countries to push for the end of those human rights abuses.
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Old 12-11-2015, 11:50 AM
 
Location: San Jose
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By the way, I don't think the main problem with Muslims is that they are "terrorists". In fact, terrorists are a small minority of all Muslims, and Muslims are a minority of all terrorists.

The main problem with Muslims is the way they treat women. I can't stand the way women are treated in most Muslim countries and Muslim communities. Too much oppression of women. We are in the 21st century, time to Muslims stop treating women like Christians treated women in the 14th century.
Add Gay people and religious minorities to that list as well.
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Old 12-11-2015, 12:50 PM
 
Location: North Idaho
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......,So why are Muslims being demonised so much? Why are Teachers in Schools being told to watch out for ''radicalisation'' in Muslim Children?.......
Probably because the muslim terrorists are the only terrorist group in the world that attacks all over the globe and without provocation. You are aware that they attack allover Africa, Indonesia, and the near East, aren't you? Europe and the USA aren't the only place they bomb buildings.

Separatist groups only attack within their own territory. There has never been a Basque group blow up a building and kill hundreds of people in the USA. No IRA attacks, no Filipino groups attacking, no Chechen plots. The local separatists in the USA are not doing nearly as much damage as you claim. Other than blowing up the Murrah Building, they mostly rob armored cars-- not exactly a terrorist activity. The eco-terrorists chain themselves to trees and burn buildings that are under construction; they don't kill people.

There are no Latin American groups blowing up buildings in the USA. Where did you get that idea? There are drug cartels in Mexico that commit mass murder, but that is a war over territory, not idealism.
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Old 12-11-2015, 08:33 PM
 
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So again why are seeing in the Media that only Muslims commit Terrorist attacks.
Religious war
A religious war or holy war (Latin: bellum sacrum) is a war primarily caused or justified by differences in religion. The account of the conquest of Canaan by the Israelites in the Book of Joshua, the Muslim conquests of the 7th and 8th centuries, and the Christian Crusades (11th to 13th centuries) and Wars of Religion (16th and 17th centuries) are the classic examples but a religious aspect has been part of warfare as early as the battles of the Mesopotamian city-states.
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Old 12-11-2015, 08:39 PM
 
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Muslim terrorists are definitely more of a threat to the world than, say, local domestic shooters.

And nobody's saying that all Muslim are terrorists. Why do people always jump to this?


Do you have evidence to back up this statement or is this just another one of your opinions about furriners? Because again, as has been posted numerous times, the statistics prove you wrong, so you are either ignorant or someone who refuses to see the facts as they are, choosing instead to cling to their preconceived notions, even in the face of all evidence to the contrary. Gee I wonder why that would be..
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Old 12-12-2015, 09:04 AM
 
Location: Finland
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Do you believe their moronic?

There was a statistic claiming that the majority of Americans believe that 9/11 was an inside job and I'm with them when the events are told countless holes emerge from it.

Like how can a Skyscraper just collapse when a plane hits the top of the building? Surely the top of the building would come crushing down but the whole building crashing down like a controlled demolition?
If you want to retain any kind of credibility ever anymore on these forums, now would be a good time to shut up. A friendly piece of advice here.
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Old 12-12-2015, 12:24 PM
 
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Probably because the muslim terrorists are the only terrorist group in the world that attacks all over the globe and without provocation.
Well, provocation should certainly not be confused with justification, but if we are accepting the notion of 'provocation' when it comes to terrorism, I'm not sure we can claim that Muslims have never been provoked. Consider:

- The carving up the Arab world post-WW1, with minimal involvement of anyone who actually lived there
- The overthrow, with CIA backing, of the elected leadership of Iran in 1953
- Western support for brutal dictators like Saddam Hussein
- The Soviet invasion of Afghanistan
- The demolition of the Babri Mosque by Hindu nationalists

None of these justify the killing of innocent people. But if we are talking about the concept of 'provocation' in relation to terrorism, then it seems difficult to see where your statement comes from...
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Old 12-12-2015, 01:25 PM
 
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Er.. yes ( Salafist Muslims, not Shia Muslims)
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Old 12-12-2015, 01:27 PM
 
Location: London, UK
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If you want to retain any kind of credibility ever anymore on these forums, now would be a good time to shut up. A friendly piece of advice here.


OK, sir!
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