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Old 01-17-2017, 09:05 PM
 
Location: Manila
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I am not sure about specific, individual countries, but I highly doubt you'd find any other region on earth with a group of countries that all have very varying political dynamics than Southeast Asia. No two countries are very similar to each other with the way they run things internally! It certainly helps that they have different ethnic, linguistic, and religious compositions, differing colonial histories from each other, and highly variable levels of economic development from one another!

We most certainly won't have an EU-style union in our lifetime! That much I'm sure of...
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Old 01-18-2017, 06:50 AM
 
Location: Sydney, Australia
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Right now I gotta say it's the US.
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Old 03-01-2017, 01:21 AM
 
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Yeah right. The left in the US actually keeps moving more and more to the center and a bit touching the right. I wish they were more to left, like Canada and Norway.
Exactly.

Return2FL must be on the far right because that's the only way someone would think this country's progressive party is far left.

The U.S. is downright conservative when compared to other 1st world countries. I don't know any other country that is so quick to cry Socialism whenever the government gets involved with something like healthcare.

A for the OP, I know this is an old thread but Brits should be happy about their boring politicians. Politicians should be civil and should not be elected to entertain us. Given how ugly and bitter the political arena is in the US, bland is good.
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Old 03-01-2017, 02:13 AM
 
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The U.S. is downright conservative when compared to other 1st world countries. I don't know any other country that is so quick to cry Socialism whenever the government gets involved with something like healthcare.
The socialism in the US is mainly for the rich, like federal bailouts, access to cheap federal credit, federal subsidies to corporations (nearly $100 billion every year), federal tax breaks for wealthy hedge fund managers (around $83 billion per year).
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Old 03-01-2017, 08:33 AM
 
Location: Scotland
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How is British politics boring? A possible 2nd Scottish independence referendum coming up. A vote to leave the EU. The situation in northern Ireland. An unelected prime minister. A woman prime minister. A far left leader of one of the major parties. The collapse of Labour in their Scottish heartlands. An MP murdered recently in a politically motivated hate crime/terrorism.

Boring it is not.
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Old 03-01-2017, 08:48 AM
 
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Yeah right. The left in the US actually keeps moving more and more to the center and a bit touching the right. I wish they were more to left, like Canada and Norway.
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The socialism in the US is mainly for the rich, like federal bailouts, access to cheap federal credit, federal subsidies to corporations (nearly $100 billion every year), federal tax breaks for wealthy hedge fund managers (around $83 billion per year).
Wrong and wrong. The percentage of the US federal budget spent on entitlements and social welfare programs continues to rise. That might or might not change under Trump, but that is reality and it indicates a continued leftward shift.

Both Canada and Norway are poor examples of what to aspire for. Both economies aren't nearly as diversified as the US. Norway in particular is able to afford its welfare state by having the oil industry mostly nationalized which provides nicely for a small population. The US would have a very difficult time emulating either model, nor should it. Since petroleum prices dropped, Canada has been struggling mightily with growth as well.
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Old 03-01-2017, 09:06 AM
 
Location: San Diego, California Republic
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Wrong and wrong. The percentage of the US federal budget spent on entitlements and social welfare programs continues to rise. That might or might not change under Trump, but that is reality and it indicates a continued leftward shift.

Both Canada and Norway are poor examples of what to aspire for. Both economies aren't nearly as diversified as the US. Norway in particular is able to afford its welfare state by having the oil industry mostly nationalized which provides nicely for a small population. The US would have a very difficult time emulating either model, nor should it. Since petroleum prices dropped, Canada has been struggling mightily with growth as well.
Your assessment is wrong here. The largest expenditure of the US government is clearly and unambiguously the military at something like 400 billion dollars a year. If by social welfare you mean programs like EBT/SNAP (food stamps). that is a tiny part of the 4% of the budget spent on food and agriculture and it puts money into the pockets of grocery store owners which is one reason why you see more and more places accepting EBT/SNAP. The other things frequently confused for social welfare like Social Security and Unemployment are not social welfare because you have to work to even qualify for them as you pay into them through payroll taxes. Those are more like insurance.
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Old 03-01-2017, 09:41 AM
 
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How is British politics boring? A possible 2nd Scottish independence referendum coming up. A vote to leave the EU. The situation in northern Ireland. An unelected prime minister. A woman prime minister. A far left leader of one of the major parties. The collapse of Labour in their Scottish heartlands. An MP murdered recently in a politically motivated hate crime/terrorism.

Boring it is not.
To be fair, this thread started a year ago.
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Old 03-01-2017, 09:44 AM
 
Location: Scotland
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Oh did it lol. Fair enough. Anyhoo the UK is certainly interesting politically today. Or worrying depends what way you look at it.
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Old 03-01-2017, 02:34 PM
 
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Wrong and wrong. The percentage of the US federal budget spent on entitlements and social welfare programs continues to rise. That might or might not change under Trump, but that is reality and it indicates a continued leftward shift.

Both Canada and Norway are poor examples of what to aspire for. Both economies aren't nearly as diversified as the US. Norway in particular is able to afford its welfare state by having the oil industry mostly nationalized which provides nicely for a small population. The US would have a very difficult time emulating either model, nor should it. Since petroleum prices dropped, Canada has been struggling mightily with growth as well.
What I actually meant to say is that social programs for ordinary citizens has a stigma attached to it (in the US), and it is very often labeled as "evil" socialism. Corporate welfare, on the other hand, is mainly considered business-friendly policies.

The Norwegian petroleum industry is not fully nationalized. Yes, all the oil and gas fields are government property, but keep in mind that 100 % of the production is offshore. Private companies can buy licences from the government.
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