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Old 01-20-2017, 10:24 AM
 
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Norway: Homicide rates (per 100,000 residents)

Norway: 0.52 (2016)

Oslo: 1.08 (2016)
Bergen: 0.0 (2016)
Trondheim: 0.0 (2016)
Stavanger: 0.0 (2016)
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Old 01-20-2017, 10:41 AM
 
Location: London, UK
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I disagree. Even in the most dangerous cities on earth, homicide is extremely rare. The odds of being a victim of it are minimal unless you or your family are involved in drug trafficking or gangs. OTH, crimes like assault, robbery, muggings and theft are far more likely to impact the average person. These are the most important statistics to consider.
Agreed. Homicides are actually quite rare among the average population even in cities with upto 50 per 100,000 homicide rates.
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Old 01-20-2017, 11:20 AM
 
Location: Scotland
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I'd say in some countries alcohol is up there as leading cause of murder along with domestic abuse.
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Old 01-20-2017, 02:01 PM
 
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Koln, Aachen and Hannover seem like the most likely candidates, both high in the violent crime stats and relatively high in homicides for German/European standards.

Augsburg is a bit of a paradox.
I would say that the homicide rates are not really meaningful. They are in all cities so low, that no one has to worry about them. Most homicides are committed by spouses or other relatives. The crime clearance rate for homicides is about 95%.
A single year with an extraordinary incident can push the homicide rate for a city. For example the number of homicides and the homicide rate in Augsburg:

2010: 4 / 1.5
2011: 3 / 1.1
2012: 7 / 2.6
2013: 1 / 0.4
2014: 5 / 1.8
2015: 0 / 0.0

The main reason why the rate of violent crimes is in major cities much higher than the average for Germany: Large events (e.g. fairs, football matches), partying on weekends and shopping attract millions of visitors from smaller nearby cities. That pushes the rate for violent crimes in major cities. It's not that residents in major cities are basically significantly more ready for violence than residents from smaller cities.
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Old 01-20-2017, 02:47 PM
 
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Homicide rate is more important than violent crime rate. It's easy to underreport or fudge the assault numbers, not to mention that different places have different definitions of what constitutes violent crime, you can't do that with homicides

I tend to disagree. You are surely right that figures between different countries for aggravated assaults aren't comparable, because every country uses different definitions.
But at least in Germany the figures for violent crimes are more meaningful than these homicide rates. For example the homicide rates for Nordrhein-Westfalen (NRW) and Bayern are pretty identical. But there is a significant difference in the rates for all other crimes between these two states.

Rates for certain crimes (average of 2013-2015):

Homicides (including attempts):
Bayern: 3.0
NRW: 2.0
Germany: 2.6

Rapes, sexual assaults:
Bayern: 6.9
NRW: 10.4
Germany: 9.0

Robbery:
Bayern: 20.2
NRW: 79.8
Germany: 56.7

Aggravated assaults:
Bayern: 124.3
NRW: 171.9
Germany: 157.1

Crimes against the personal liberty:
Bayern: 173.9
NRW: 283.1
Germany: 240.0

All Thefts:
Bayern: 1,512.2
NRW: 3,820.0
Germany: 3,013.0

Fraud:
Bayern: 729.0
NRW: 1,415.2
Germany: 1,184.8


By just looking at the homicide rates (including attempted homicides) one should get the impression that NRW is safer than Bayern. But that is definitely not the case. The crime rates for all other crimes are significantly higher in NRW. The main reason is surely a difference in the mentality between the people in these two states. In NRW (at least in most regions) we are far less law-abiding than the people in Bayern. It's a very different mindset. Bicycle theft in NRW is not a big deal, more like a trivial offence. That's surely different in Bayern. The police in Bayern is much stricter.
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Old 01-21-2017, 09:58 PM
 
Location: Taipei
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Norway: Homicide rates (per 100,000 residents)

Norway: 0.52 (2016)

Oslo: 1.08 (2016)
Bergen: 0.0 (2016)
Trondheim: 0.0 (2016)
Stavanger: 0.0 (2016)
Impressive, but I'm guessing it should be easy to find tiny cities without any murder in 2016 in most countries.
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