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Old 06-01-2016, 08:51 PM
 
Location: San Diego, California Republic
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California is also overwhelmingly big-city urban,.
Wrong! The majority of California is rural. Most of the people of course live in the urban areas but the majority of the state is not urban. 40% of the land in California is public land; either state or national parks, national or state forest, state and national wildlife refuges. Another huge percentage is farmland. California is home to the largest urban park district in the US, East Bay Regional Park District in the east San Francisco Bay Area which operates huge areas of undeveloped land so even within a large metro, there are huge areas of wilderness. I don't know where you got this idea but it is most certainly wrong.
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Old 06-01-2016, 11:41 PM
 
Location: Canada
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Almost everywhere else in the LA/OC area, excluding the rich Westside neighborhoods, will be Asian or Hispanic (and a few remaining black and middle class white areas).
It seems like the remaining black communities in LA also tend to be more middle class. The poorer areas of LA that used to be predominantly black like the east side of South Central, Watts and Compton etc, are majority Hispanic now. The middle class black areas seem to be holding up pretty well.
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Old 06-02-2016, 12:45 AM
 
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Some hispanic families choose biculturalism.


Hispanic Heritage Month: Bicultural families in the United States | La Opinión
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Old 06-02-2016, 01:51 AM
 
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I mean you see how they treat Muslims in Europe so it shouldn't be a stretch of the imagination for them to be ignorant to the fact that the U.S. is not 99.9% white. Secondly, Hawaii was stolen by the European colonizers. If anything your friend is the MOST American of Americans.
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Old 06-02-2016, 01:55 AM
 
Location: SE UK
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I mean you see how they treat Muslims in Europe so it shouldn't be a stretch of the imagination for them to be ignorant to the fact that the U.S. is not 99.9% white. Secondly, Hawaii was stolen by the European colonizers. If anything your friend is the MOST American of Americans.
And how is that exactly?
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Old 06-02-2016, 03:01 AM
 
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I have a beautiful American friend from Hawaii. Her mother is an ethnic Hawaiian and her father is a Southern Black American male from Atlanta. She was born in Honolulu! (She's a US AMERICAN through and through!)

Well she now lives in Europe and for some reason many ignorant Europeans often tell her that she doesn't look American, that she looks like she comes from somewhere else! When she asks how do Americans look like their reply is.... Well like the British! (What could be more American than the mixture of a Hawaiian islander and an Atlanta black man?)

I do not know where Europeans got this silly idea from!

I also met Europeans who visit the US and are often shocked to see how diverse it is. Many go to Miami and are shocked to find out that the city resembles the UK in absolutely nothing, and it has so many similarities to the Caribbean islands and to South America in culture, history, food, etc. (they were expecting Liverpool by the caribbean perhaps!)

Many in fact are quite surprised to know that not all of the US was colonized by the British. It was only 13 states on the Atlantic coast, the rest belonged to France and to Spain!
This is a colonial map of the US


Hence places with French names like New Orleans, Detroit, Des Moines, Eau Claire, Baton Rouge, Saint Louis. Hence places with Spanish names like Los Angeles, San Francisco, Las Vegas, Texas, Florida, Nevada, Colorado.

But this is something that seems to escape most of the Europeans for some reason.

Alaska belonged to Russia by the way!

I met so many Europeans and Brits who often go to America and are shocked to see you can go to many cities and regions where you will hardly find a white-anglo person!

And this diversity does not come exclusively from immigration. Even before the US was a nation, it already had millions of African slaves, Indigenous Americans roaming free all over the land, the central part of the US was pretty much Francophone (Called New France at the time), and the pacific coast was part of Spain mostly populated by Spanish colonials and its colonees (mestizos).
Then came heavy immigration millions of Germans, Polish, Italians, Irish, Eastern Europeans, eventually millions of Chinese, Japanese, Mexicans etc. Making the US even MORE diverse than what it already was and even less Anglo than Europeans seem to think it is!

Americans of course are aware of their own country's mega diversity.... Americans know that in New Mexico they have a lot of Spanish heritage, and in Louisiana many people speak French and that in Montana you have tons of Native americans, and Atlanta has a lot of black people! But Europeans who often claim to know a lot about the world and the US are actually rather in the dark and expect the US to be a really Anglo nation with tons of similarities to Britain sort of like New Zealand is!

Why is it though?

It would be interesting to find out why!
This is because we are mostly an English-speaking nation.
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Old 06-02-2016, 07:17 AM
 
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And how is that exactly?
Like voting one to be Mayor of London?
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Old 06-02-2016, 08:40 AM
 
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The movie McFarland hinted at Interculturalism. I expect we will see more Hispanic influence in the future, blurring the distinctions a bit.

Last edited by Tim Randal Walker; 06-02-2016 at 09:18 AM..
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Old 06-02-2016, 09:30 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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BTW, I once came across mention (the book The Next American Nation by Michael Lind) that the mainstream itself is a sort of creole culture..

And the cultures (English, Scottish, Irish, Italian, German, French, etc.) that contributed to the current "creole mainstream", were in fact "creole" cultures themselves at one point in history.
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Old 06-02-2016, 12:08 PM
 
Location: New Albany, Indiana (Greater Louisville)
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Are there that many pure bred Anglo Americans anywhere? I'm pretty close (maybe 75% England / Scotland / Wales / and Irish) but even I have quite a bit of German, Dutch, and French. It's not uncommon for Whites of colonial era ancestry to have trace amounts of Indian and African too. Britain itself has been diverse for centuries, they could be Celtic, Anglo/Saxon/Jute, Roman, French Norman, Viking, etc. Only the most remote parts of Wales and Ireland are mostly homogeneous.
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