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Old 06-05-2016, 05:46 PM
 
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Top ten:

1. Norway
2. Switzerland
3. Denmark
4. New Zealand
5. Sweden
6. Canada
7. Australia
8. Netherlands
9. Finland
10. Ireland
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Old 06-05-2016, 07:10 PM
 
Location: Eindhoven, Netherlands
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South Korea and Japan only 20th and 28th in Education Hong Kong 53rd
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Old 06-06-2016, 03:48 AM
 
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South Korea and Japan only 20th and 28th in Education Hong Kong 53rd
Parents in South Korea and Japan have to pay for private tutoring (cram schools) if they expect their kids to do even reasonably well and to get into a good secondary school. So that would seem to indicate that public school curriculum or pedagogy is inadequate. Gender-segregated activities are also not what you'd expect in 2016--elementary school boys will be taken on a field trip to a fire station as a "career day" activity, while the female students will be taken to a beauty salon instead. Seriously.

Hong Kong has huge slums, and I don't know what the school drop-out rate is, but I doubt that the number of well-educated students is at a level similar to most developed nations. And what's the curriculum?
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Old 06-06-2016, 04:05 AM
 
Location: Taipei
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South Korea and Japan only 20th and 28th in Education Hong Kong 53rd
Asian education is the worst in the world. We should all be like the 100th.
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Old 06-06-2016, 04:30 AM
 
Location: Finland
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We should do something about that damn economy, or otherwise we'll drop from the top 10. Down from #3 in 2010 to #9 this year.
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Old 06-06-2016, 04:38 AM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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The US #9 in education...

what?!
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Old 06-06-2016, 05:47 AM
 
Location: Kingdom of pain, Southern Europe
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USA 1st in health.
Yeah okay, seems legit.
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Old 06-06-2016, 06:03 AM
 
Location: Finland
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USA 1st in health.
Yeah okay, seems legit.
It's a global index, so it doesn't focus on for example obesiety and other 1st world menaces. The factors are like vaccination, infant mortality, sanitation, prevalence of tuberculosis, undernourishment, hospital beds per capita and so on. Of course USA does well on these factors.

edit: I looked at the details for my country and it said "government stability - years since last regime change in 2014: 70". I was like WTF, we haven't ever had any sort of coup, and just days ago it was the 110th anniversary for the ridiculous idea of giving women the vote. Then I realised that 2014-70 = 1944. Ah, the president stepped down and dissolved the government. Apparently the index thinks that getting rid off the obligations to the nazis is a bad thing.

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Old 06-06-2016, 06:30 AM
 
Location: Kingdom of pain, Southern Europe
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It's a global index, so it doesn't focus on for example obesiety and other 1st world menaces. The factors are like vaccination, infant mortality, sanitation, prevalence of tuberculosis, undernourishment, hospital beds per capita and so on. Of course USA does well on these factors.

edit: I looked at the details for my country and it said "government stability - years since last regime change in 2014: 70". I was like WTF, we haven't ever had any sort of coup, and just days ago it was the 110th anniversary for the ridiculous idea of giving women the vote. Then I realised that 2014-70 = 1944. Ah, the president stepped down and dissolved the government. Apparently the index thinks that getting rid off the obligations to the nazis is a bad thing.
The thing it focuses on, the USA still ranks worse than most 1st world countries who have been ranked behind.

Infant mortality is still quite high for such a rich nation, health problems (Self report, with the question being a simple "Do you have health problems?" 21% yes against a 23% global average. Spain reports a 15%) also make it look worse. Life expectancy isn't crazy good for them, either.

Overall there are many other first world nations that should've ranked higher than the USA, but didn't.
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Old 06-06-2016, 07:20 AM
 
Location: Great Britain
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The thing it focuses on, the USA still ranks worse than most 1st world countries who have been ranked behind.

Infant mortality is still quite high for such a rich nation, health problems (Self report, with the question being a simple "Do you have health problems?" 21% yes against a 23% global average. Spain reports a 15%) also make it look worse. Life expectancy isn't crazy good for them, either.

Overall there are many other first world nations that should've ranked higher than the USA, but didn't.
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There’s good reason to be skeptical of the index’s rankings. Much of the data derives from opinion polls, which are inherently subjective and difficult to compare across countries, and some of it has nothing to do with prosperity.

For example, one measure of economic prosperity is whether residents “have confidence in financial institutions.” Last year, only 48 percent of Americans expressed such confidence, compared to the 61 percent global average. But the notion that America’s financial institutions, however serious their problems, are in worse shape than those of most of the rest of the world is ridiculous. Confidence is relative.

Another problem is that the index treats the vague notion of “social capital” as crucial for prosperity. One of the alleged measures of “social capital,” in turn, is how many residents “attended a place of worship in [the] past week.” But that’s an asinine measure of prosperity. By that “standard,” Islamists who plot daily in mosques to murder Americans and Israelis would top this portion of the rankings.
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