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View Poll Results: Which country would you prefer (PLEASE read scenario BELOW FIRST)?
The "liberal" one 29 61.70%
The "conservative" one 18 38.30%
Voters: 47. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 06-09-2016, 11:16 PM
 
Location: Sydney, Australia
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Country 1 ("liberal"): Very free country. Has anti-discrimination laws. Pro gays, pro women, etc and etc. You can dress however you want. There's free speech. It's pretty much a democracy. But alas, it's very violent and ferocious. Murder rate is extremely high, as is rape, muggings, assaults and other sorts of malicious crimes.

Country 2 ("conservative"): Almost like a dictatorship. A cruel law system with death penalties such as the firing range and decapitation, and punishments such as lashes. No free speech allowed (at least controversial ones that go against the government). You must dress or act how the law wants you to (especially the women). No LGBT or women's rights. But here, you're safe as you can be, just as long as you abide to the laws. You can leave your door open all night and no one would rob you. Hardly any murder or assaults.

Pick your poison.
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Old 06-10-2016, 02:11 AM
 
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If you don't have safety or your life what do you have?
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Old 06-10-2016, 03:04 AM
 
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The conservative one. "Liberal" is a mask term for a country where unless you're woman or Anglo/Arab you'd have problems.

Sweden is perfect example: they're anti-Eastern Europe, anti-Capitalism, anti-Israel and just pro-gay and pro-American.

It's like asking: Will you pick Sweden or Monaco?

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Old 06-10-2016, 03:05 AM
 
Location: United Kingdom
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The designations you mean are "libertarian vs authoritarian" which concern government control. This is not the same thing as "liberal vs conservative" which concerns social and ethical values or economic policy.

For example, you can have an authoritarian government that imposes socially liberal (eg. LGBT) policy by fiat, and disparages, oppresses or incarcerates anyone who dares to defend the right to express contrarian views.

Likewise, you can have a libertarian government that promotes socially conservative (eg. pro-traditional family) policy through exclusively non-intrusive measures such as education, public discourse and media exemplars.
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Old 06-10-2016, 03:29 AM
 
Location: Taipei
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The conservative one. "Liberal" is a mask term for a country where unless you're f@g, woman or Anglo/Arab you'd have problems.

Sweden is perfect example: they're anti-Eastern Europe, anti-Capitalism, anti-Israel and just pro-gay and pro-American.

It's like asking: Will you pick Sweden or Monaco?
Lol @ you calling Sweden violent. It's about as safe as a country can get.
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Old 06-10-2016, 03:35 AM
 
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Lol @ you calling Sweden violent. It's about as safe as a country can get.
There are no "no go zones" in Sweden. You can go there but you can't stay .

Swedish police being ATTACKED as they struggle in 'NO GO ZONES' as migrant crime rockets | World | News | Daily Express

Sweden is just one example, don't want to fixate on them. They're in the same category as Germany, US, UK, Australia etc. but slightly more liberal.
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Old 06-10-2016, 03:37 AM
 
Location: Hong Kong / Vienna
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Should I post some daily mail and daily express articles about violent Eastern European gangs?
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Old 06-10-2016, 03:46 AM
 
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Should I post some daily mail and daily express articles about violent Eastern European gangs?
Would love to make this one shorter but...:

Google "no go zones in Sweden" and you will find information from other sources.

Actually it's interesting how many wrong things you can write in such a short sentence. For starters, the DM stopped targeting EE in around 2015, and Eastern Europe is such an old term everyone who uses it + DM are just living 30 years behind and shouldn't be taken seriously. Finally, Eastern Europe these days is reserved for the "noble" Ukraine and Russia...I don't care about them. My country only interests DM in the context of gypsies and beggars, which isn't the "violent blond slavs" - the type Farage likes.
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Old 06-10-2016, 04:03 AM
 
Location: Taipei
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There are no "no go zones" in Sweden. You can go there but you can't stay .

Swedish police being ATTACKED as they struggle in 'NO GO ZONES' as migrant crime rockets | World | News | Daily Express

Sweden is just one example, don't want to fixate on them. They're in the same category as Germany, US, UK, Australia etc. but slightly more liberal.
Those no go zones are all complete nonsense and simply racist propaganda. Sure there might be neighbourhoods where crime rate is higher than normal but which country/city doesn't have them?
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Old 06-10-2016, 04:11 AM
 
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Those no go zones are all complete nonsense and simply racist propaganda. Sure there might be neighbourhoods where crime rate is higher than normal but which country/city doesn't have them?
It isn't racist as Islam is not a race. Plus most countries don't have them, especially not counties as over hyped as Sweden, UK and the likes. In poor counties like Bulgaria that don't have fraction of the reputation Sweden has, the worst are gypsies neighborhoods and people avoid them not because they're dangerous but because they're poor. They can't be compared to Harlem, America or places with Sharia law in Western Europe.
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