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Old 06-23-2016, 06:12 PM
 
Location: Seattle WA, USA
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And if it's binge drinking that scares you here are some maps on that as well





I don't know why exactly the two maps contradict each other.
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Old 06-23-2016, 06:15 PM
 
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And if it's binge drinking that scares you here are some maps on that as well





I don't know why exactly the two maps contradict each other.
I don't think it's very surprising.

In some countries, there's a "forbidden fruit" lure associate with alcohol for teenagers. So they start binge drinking at that age. It's a phase, and once they're legally allowed to get into pubs and clubs, the binge drinking silliness becomes a thing of the past.

The second chart indicates where adult alcohol abuse/alcoholism are more of a problem... and that's a very different issue. Some places have a culture of accepting heavy drinking. Some have a possible genetic ethnic predisposition towards alcoholism.
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Old 06-23-2016, 06:26 PM
 
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The noobs are those who haven't experienced it. Why do people drink? Why do they use drugs? Because it's awesome.
You are quite a boring person if one of your life's best memories is getting high/wasted.

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Old 06-23-2016, 06:27 PM
 
Location: Seattle WA, USA
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I don't think it's very surprising.

In some countries, there's a "forbidden fruit" lure associate with alcohol for teenagers. So they start binge drinking at that age. It's a phase, and once they're legally allowed to get into pubs and clubs, the binge drinking silliness becomes a thing of the past.

The second chart indicates where adult alcohol abuse/alcoholism are more of a problem... and that's a very different issue. Some places have a culture of accepting heavy drinking. Some have a possible genetic ethnic predisposition towards alcoholism.
I was just most surprised by libya and indonesia considering their muslim culture, and especially with libya since it's illegal, but then I guess that might be part of the cause, people drinking when ever they can get the chance.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_drinking_age
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Old 06-23-2016, 06:34 PM
 
Location: Somewhere in Southern Italy
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And if it's binge drinking that scares you here are some maps on that as well





I don't know why exactly the two maps contradict each other.
Maybe because the first is about adolescents which probably can't drink in these countries due to a closely enforced legal age. For example, it explains the change in colour in the USA. The second map is much more relevant while the first one is almost singlehandedly regarding adolescents and is skewed because of different legal ages. Aside from that, an impressive amount of adolescents in Italy get wasted but once they grow up the numbers slowly fall
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Old 06-23-2016, 07:05 PM
 
Location: Taipei
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Are you kidding me? Japanese, Chinese, and Koreans are alcohol champions, and the Koreans are among the heaviest drinkers in the world. Weak alcohol tolerance doesn't mean people aren't gonna drink. You need to know more people who aren't super nerds. My Japanese gf is a social drinker, as am I and her friends and we're hitting the 居酒屋 when I'm there. Plus in Japan there's the after-work drink culture. Don't tell me Japan doesn't drink when it's a BIG part of their culture called 飲み会. If they have a word for it, they're into it
Yeah Koreans and Japanese are heavy drinkers, especially Koreans.

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Not been my experience with Taiwanese people. At least the ones here anyway. Then again seems like I always attract the drinkers and party-goers.
Well Taiwanese people who live abroad would drink as drinking is the easiest way to socialise with foreigners, but Taiwanese people in Taiwan just don't drink that much. Sure there are alcoholics and drunks here and there, but in general alcohol is not a very big part of the society.
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Old 06-23-2016, 07:22 PM
 
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Yeah Koreans and Japanese are heavy drinkers, especially Koreans.
You need to visit Ireland.
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Old 06-23-2016, 08:07 PM
 
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You need to visit Ireland.
Ok Irish people might drink more, I don't know that, but Koreans and Japanese are still heavy drinkers, and a large part of it isn't drinking for pleasure, but for pressure.
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Old 06-23-2016, 08:28 PM
 
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I don't think it's very surprising.

In some countries, there's a "forbidden fruit" lure associate with alcohol for teenagers. So they start binge drinking at that age. It's a phase, and once they're legally allowed to get into pubs and clubs, the binge drinking silliness becomes a thing of the past.

The second chart indicates where adult alcohol abuse/alcoholism are more of a problem... and that's a very different issue. Some places have a culture of accepting heavy drinking. Some have a possible genetic ethnic predisposition towards alcoholism.
Did you notice Indonesia is very low in the total alcohol consumption stakes, but at the top of the binge drinking stats. Interesting.
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Old 06-23-2016, 08:32 PM
 
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You sound ... youthful. Works well when you're young, and in fact, dehydration is really what causes hangovers. Drinking water does help. Avoiding hangovers, though, becomes more difficult for a lot of people as they get older. We just don't tolerate the physical abuse as easily anymore. You can drink until you're sick when you're in your 20s and never get a hangover... I seem to get a hangover 30 minutes after having a beer, nowadays.
I'm almost 30 years old, so definitely not youthful. So I don't drink heavily anymore, plus I don't want to damage my liver. If I sound...youthful, you must sound...sheltered.

You only get a hangover after you become sober, not before. I still got hangovers when I was 21. Most people get them. Hangovers are that massive headache you get after you wake up in the morning, by the way, I think you might be confusing it for being drunk. Not the same thing.

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What does drinking sake or rice beer have to do with being "chaste" or "innocent"? There are still lots of clubs and bars and discos etc. around east Asia. But the allergy to alcohol is prevalent, and they still don't have a culture of pubs and binge drinking like some other places in the world. Despite being affluent, with good disposable incomes to spend on entertainment, neither Korea nor Japan is in the top 25 of countries based on per capita alcohol consumption. Heck, the U.S. isn't in the top 25 either. Nor is Canada.

2013 stats:
Where people drink the most around the world - Business Insider
Well, Japan has a culture of pubs....they're called izakayas (居酒屋) and they are everywhere. If you are against pub culture, Korea, and especially Japan, are not where you want to visit or live, especially Japan where you're EXPECTED to join your coworkers in after-work drinking sessions (nomikai 飲み会) at the izakaya (which is Japanese pub). Japan's drinking culture is similar to Spain's, which both have heavy emphasis on social drinking. South Korea is the binge drink capital of Asia.

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And if it's binge drinking that scares you here are some maps on that as well





I don't know why exactly the two maps contradict each other.
One map is for 15-19 year olds, the other is for everyone over 15 years old.
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