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Most likely Spanish name Juan /Huang/ is cognate to Chinese word幸福(xìngfú) /happiness/.
Another thing I can't figure out is why, when there are so many Chinese words that genuinely sound like "huan(g)," those "Turkish linguists" chose to link Juan to a Chinese word that has almost nothing phonological in common with it.
Other languages that have all the letters preserved.
Georgian ნიშანი (nishani) /sign, score, mark, target/.
Hindi निशान (nishaan) /a sign, mark; landmark; marking; scar; an impression; standard, flag; an emblem; a clue, trace; task/.
Bengali নিশান (niśāna) /a flag, an ensign, a standard, a banner/.
Other languages in which the first two letters are lost.
a)
Japanese サイン(sain) /sign/, 前兆(zenchō) /omen; portent; sign/.
Gujarati સાન (sāna) /sign, signal; hint; wink; understanding, sense; self-respect/.
Khmer សញ្ញា (sanhnhea [saɲɲaa] ) - sign, symbol, perception; symptom; mark (e.g. of punctuation); signal, advertisement, notice.
Scottish Gaelic sanas – 1) notice, sign, signal 2) warning 3) hint.
Malagasy sonia / sign, signature/.
b) Slavic languages.
Bulgarian знак (znak) /sign, signal/.
Polish znak /mark, sign, markup, stigma/; oznaka /feature, symptom, emblem, symbol/.
Russian знак (znak) /sign/.
Serbian знак (znak) /sign, signal, omen, hallmark, feature, symptom/; ознака (oznaka) /mark, sign, markup, designation/.
Other languages in which the first two letters are lost.
a)
Japanese サイン(sain) /sign/, 前兆(zenchō) /omen; portent; sign/.
Neither of these is a native Japanese word.
The first of these is an English loanword, directly from English "sign." You can tell because it's written in katakana and is very obviously a borrowed English word.
The second is another Chinese loanword. You can tell because of the phonetics and because it's written with two Chinese characters. The one pronounced zen 前 doesn't mean "sign, omen," it means "before."
I know Japanese. I will call you out every time for these silly attempts to link Japanese to other languages by using non-Japanese loanwords.
And, by the way, in your link, the Japanese word sono has no commonality with the English word "soon" except its sound. Sono means "that," as in, "Give me that book."
Your example, sono ato or sonogo その後, again has nothing to do with "soon," it means "after" (ato) "that" (sono). "After that" could be soon, or it could be a long time from now.
Arabic كركوز (karakūz ) /shadow play/. The Arabic word comes from the name of the character of the Turkish play. Karagöz - literally Blackeye in Turkish. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karag%C3%B6z_and_Hacivat
Turkish kara /black/, karagöz /shadow theater/.
Karaim кара (kara) – black.
Bashkir ҡара (ckara) – black.
The same word is in Hebrew.
Hebrew השחרה (hashharah) – blacking.
Mongolian хар (har) – black.
Buryat хара (hara) – black.
Kalmyk хар (har) – black.
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Yakut хара (hara) – black.
Khakass хара (hara) – black.
Chuvash хура (hura) – black.
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Is there Turkic words kara/hara (black) and kūz /göz (eye) in Hungarian?
Perhaps not.
Hungarian fekete /black/ and szem /eye/.
Nevertheless these Turkic words are in the Hungarian word haragos – angry, wrathful.
In Bashkir usually said, disgruntled (unfriendly) person has a black face.
In the Hungarian case angry person has a black eye.
From the Hungarian word formed a new word: harag – anger, malice.
The Mongolian word хар (har) , in addition to meaning black, also has meaning - evil, angry, insidious.
Azeri qara 1) black 3) evil.
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Most likely Hungarian word fekete /black/ derives from Albanian word flokët /hair/.
Tajik дурӯғ (durugh) /lie, deception/.
Persian (Farsi) دروغ (dorugh) /lie, deception/.
Dari drogh /lie/.
These words are the rest of a Turkic phrase.
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Originally Posted by Radik Safin
Finnish word "kaura" [oat] and Estonian word "kaer" [oat] are related to Kazakh
"қара сұлы" (2) (qara sulı ) – oat.
Finnish word "kaura" [oat] is derived from Bashkir phrase "ҡара hоло/соло"
(ckara holo/solo) [wild oat] – literally "black oat".
Some examples of the dissemination of the Turkic words with the meaning black, darkness and soot.
Karachay-Balkar къара (qara) /black/, къурум (qurum) /soot/.
Turkish kara /black/, kurum (soot).
Latin nigrum /black, blackness/.
Portuguese negrume /blackness, darkness/; negro /black, dark/.
Romanian negru /black, dark/; negreată /blackness, soot/.
Spanish negro /black, dark/.
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Bashkir ҡором (ckorom) /soot/.
Hungarian korom /soot/.
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Chuvash хура (hura) – black; хăрăм (horom) – soot.
Amharic ጥቁር (t'qur) – black.
Japanese 黒(kuro) – black.
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Nogai кара (kara) /black/; курым (kurım) /soot/.
Japanese 黒(kuro) – black.
Spanish obscuro – dark.
Portuguese escuro – dark, darkness.
Italian scuro – dark, darkness.
Maltese skur - dark (in colour).
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Bashkir ҡарангы (ckarangı) – dark.
Kumyk къарангы (qarangı) – dark.
Turkish karanğı – darkness.
Karachay-Balkar къаранъы (qaranı) /dark, darkness/.
Spanish oscurana /darkness, gloom/.
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Bashkir ҡарайтыу (ckaraytow) /verb black/.
Tuva кара (kara) /black, dark/; карартыр (karartır) /to make the surface black/.
Bengali অন্ধকার (andhakāra) /darkness, gloom; absence of light/.
Hindi अंधेरा (andhera) /black, dark, darkness, night-time/.
Malayalam കറുത്ത (kaṟutta) – black.
Tamil கருப்பு (Karuppu) – black.
Arabic شُحّار (shuhhar) /soot/.
Mari шӱч (shuch) /soot/.
Thank you Saibot!
You somehow managed to bring up some interesting information out of a totally ridiculous thread from another mental. I had already been following you from the weather forum discussion with the seemingly autistic guy... I had never entered here, and it turned out to be another insanity case you went up against.
I sometimes ask to myself whether it is worthy intervening in this kind of situations, in which you know that actual communication is impossible, but on the other hand you may feel like remaining silent is giving them authority, even if it is in some obscure corner in the internet.
Thank you Saibot!
You somehow managed to bring up some interesting information out of a totally ridiculous thread from another mental. I had already been following you from the weather forum discussion with the seemingly autistic guy... I had never entered here, and it turned out to be another insanity case you went up against.
I sometimes ask to myself whether it is worthy intervening in this kind of situations, in which you know that actual communication is impossible, but on the other hand you may feel like remaining silent is giving them authority, even if it is in some obscure corner in the internet.
Think of it as a succesful intervention.
The voice of one crying in the wilderness...
Thanks for your nice comments.
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