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Old 08-12-2016, 11:15 AM
 
Location: Somewhere in Southern Italy
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To the point where those students who are good at science, math, computers etc. are the nerds, outcast and at the bottom of the social ladder.
I have noticed this anti intellectualism a fair bit in USA based shows and have always wondered whether it was actually true or not. The clique-ish nature of USA high school seems a rather sad reality. Honestly, from what i have read and seen, which is in no way enough, after the lack of a universal healthcare, the education system is probably the second thing i would change about your country. It just feels so foreign and unnecessary to me.

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For women in the US this obsession with sports culture is actually healthy. It boosts morale, discipline and confidence in areas other than beauty.

I played soccer, ran cross country and played waterpolo. This really contributed to my success in college and life in general. I like this aspect of American culture.
Yeah, the fact that there isn't gender discrimination in sports is a positive point. I think the USA probably excel more in that aspect than Western European countries are but i still think choosing to fund overly expensive sports systems over more basic needs is still a negative choice.

Here, there are usually clubs which offer training and coaching at a low price. The largest clubs usually do it without having you spend anything if you are good enough. The youth teams of my city's soccer club is such an example even if it plays in the fifth division and isn't professional. This means that most sports are relatively affordable even for the working class.

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Old 08-12-2016, 11:17 AM
 
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Yep all we have to do is look at how even in High School the football players are placed on a pedestal(sports players are at the top of the social hierarchy) it's even much more exaggerated in College. It's all about winning and bringing notoriety and cash to the school and city. It seems that learning takes a back seat to sports in the US.
Johnny Manziel gets more attention than any Olympics gold medalist. College football was practically synonymous with school spirit in my school.
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Old 08-12-2016, 11:26 AM
 
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To the point where those students who are good at science, math, computers etc. are the nerds, outcast and at the bottom of the social ladder.
Not necessarily....if you see the list of American olympians quite a few have degrees in the sciences.

I was into sports and went on to study biochemistry, then international relations/history.
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Old 08-12-2016, 11:39 AM
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To the point where those students who are good at science, math, computers etc. are the nerds, outcast and at the bottom of the social ladder.
I agree 100% in High School anyway there is sometimes a stigma to appearing too smart.
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Old 08-12-2016, 11:40 AM
 
Location: San Diego, California Republic
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Not necessarily....if you see the list of American olympians quite a few have degrees in the sciences.

I was into sports and went on to study biochemistry, then international relations/history.
There are always exceptions to the rule but overall, what I said stands true.
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Old 08-12-2016, 11:40 AM
 
Location: Vancouver
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I mean, I know we're awesome and all but gold after gold after gold, it gets tiring at some point. Seriously, other countries need to step up, we're winning wrestling, swimming, volleyball, soccer(!!!), gymnastics, and literally everything else. I'm just in awe at how amazing we are, that's all.
Congrats of course, but the US usually does better in the summer Olympics, compared to the Winter Olympics.
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Old 08-12-2016, 11:57 AM
 
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Lance Armstrong, Marion Jones, Antonio Pettigrew, Jerome Young, Tyler Hamilton, Tyson Gay are all indicators the count isn't final until the fat lady sings.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...s_in_athletics

Oh my! All that awesomeness.

23 athletes competing at Rio Olympics fail London 2012 drugs retest

There may actually be a few amateurs competing who are doing so without massive state sponsorship and the best drug test evasion technology available, and to them I say well done; to the rest I say............ meh; I've lost interest in the phoniest display of level playing field sportsmanship the Olympics has come to be known as.............Like all the other franchised sports out there now, just another greed/profit motivated business.

They who spend the most money, win the most medals is not indicative of anything other than economic might. Awesome!

Now, on the other hand, those guys from Fiji that won the country's first ever medal...... Wayd'da go boys!
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Old 08-12-2016, 12:02 PM
 
Location: Tricity, PL
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For women in the US this obsession with sports culture is actually healthy. It boosts morale, discipline and confidence in areas other than beauty.

I played soccer, ran cross country and played waterpolo. This really contributed to my success in college and life in general. I like this aspect of American culture.
^^^ But at what price?
In the US nearly 40 million kids play organized team sports. They practice multiple times a week (sometimes late into the night), weekends, and are a part of stiff competition to win a coveted spot on the local travel team or private club.
Sports takes priority over all else. Kids (AND parents) who don't excel get disappointed and angry.
To keep with the demands placed on the athletes, parents are also enrolling their kids in pricey specialty camps for the summer, and some are taking their kids to sports psychologists to help them keep their emotions under control on the field.
Parents are addicted to watching her children play. They don't provide their kids quality family life. They just rush from practice to games and competitions, and actually live in fear of their kids' coaches, to the point of neglecting their kids' emotional health. They rather cancel appointments for their depressed kids so they wouldn't miss practice, otherwise their coach won't play them....

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Old 08-12-2016, 12:39 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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Congrats of course, but the US usually does better in the summer Olympics, compared to the Winter Olympics.
Actually, the US has stepped its game up in the Winter Olympics. Finished 1st in the medal count in 2010 and 2nd in 2014. Far better than 1994 and 1998.
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Old 08-12-2016, 12:51 PM
 
Location: Boston
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Congrats of course, but the US usually does better in the summer Olympics, compared to the Winter Olympics.
You're acting like we don't perform in the winter olympics...
We came in 4th in 2014, 3rd in 2010, and 2nd in 2006....
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