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Old 08-13-2016, 08:36 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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I agree with the overall tone of what you're saying but a few things are not accurate.

The US is not the oldest republic. It's the oldest federation.

Not all G7 countries are republics. Canada, Japan and the UK are not republics.

Not all EU countries are republics.

The majority of the world's countries are republics but not all within the above criteria.
The US can be and is both, as a matter of fact.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_republic
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Old 08-13-2016, 08:59 PM
 
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Democracy is a responsibility. As I age, I believe more and more than many corners of the globe are not prepared for the responsibility of democracy.
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Old 08-13-2016, 09:06 PM
 
Location: Hong Kong / Vienna
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The US can be and is both, as a matter of fact.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_republic
I don't think that Gentoo contested this.
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Old 08-13-2016, 09:15 PM
 
Location: San Diego, California Republic
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The US can be and is both, as a matter of fact.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_republic
I'm aware that a country can be both. However, the US is still not the oldest republic despite being the oldest federation. Some countries are federations but are not republics such as Canada. It is a constitutional monarchy. Some countries are republics but not federations. Democratic Republic of Congo is one such example. The two terms federal and republic do not always go together.
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Old 08-13-2016, 09:16 PM
 
Location: San Diego, California Republic
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I don't think that Gentoo contested this.
Thank you
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Old 08-13-2016, 09:17 PM
 
Location: Taipei
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Maybe 10% or something.
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Old 08-13-2016, 11:04 PM
 
Location: "Silicon Valley" (part of San Francisco Bay Area, California, USA)
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Originally Posted by Gentoo View Post
I agree with the overall tone of what you're saying but a few things are not accurate.

The US is not the oldest republic. It's the oldest federation.

Not all G7 countries are republics. Canada, Japan and the UK are not republics.

Not all EU countries are republics.
All the countries you mentioned are republics in practice. Yes, in theory, the UK and other Commonwealth countries are constitutional monarchies, but in practice, they are republics. The constitution of Japan actually states that the emperor/king is a figurehead and has no political power.

The USA is the country which has been a democratic republic for the longest time. The UK, for example, was run as a monarchy for most of its existence.

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The majority of the world's countries are republics but not all within the above criteria.
About half are free countries/democratic republics. According to Freedom House, 40% of the world's countries are free and 25% are partly free, and 36% are not free.

https://freedomhouse.org/report/free...dom-world-2016
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Old 08-13-2016, 11:18 PM
 
Location: San Diego, California Republic
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All the countries you mentioned are republics in practice. Yes, in theory, the UK and other Commonwealth countries are constitutional monarchies, but in practice, they are republics. The constitution of Japan actually states that the emperor/king is a figurehead and has no political power.

The USA is the country which has been a democratic republic for the longest time. The UK, for example, was run as a monarchy for most of its existence.

https://freedomhouse.org/report/free...dom-world-2016
Ok, you very obviously don't understand what a republic is so I am wasting my time trying to discuss this with you.
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Old 08-13-2016, 11:26 PM
 
Location: Hong Kong / Vienna
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All the countries you mentioned are republics in practice. Yes, in theory, the UK and other Commonwealth countries are constitutional monarchies, but in practice, they are republics. The constitution of Japan actually states that the emperor/king is a figurehead and has no political power.

The USA is the country which has been a democratic republic for the longest time. The UK, for example, was run as a monarchy for most of its existence.



About half are free countries/democratic republics. According to Freedom House, 40% of the world's countries are free and 25% are partly free, and 36% are not free.

https://freedomhouse.org/report/free...dom-world-2016
Ouch.
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Old 08-17-2016, 03:09 AM
 
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very few.

Democracies are instituted to govern on behalf of the average worker/voter, not the elites. By that definition, perhaps the north euro social democracies, Holland, maybe france. Maybe Germany. Canada is definitely NOT a democracy; it's an oligarchy over here, if one honestly evaluates the laws and practices of the government (but not its rhetoric). Canada began to backpedal from its democratic socialist ideals in the early 90s and hasn't stopped since. I haven't voted in decades; no point to it any longer, really.

Actually most countries are oligarchies of one kind or another.
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