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Old 10-09-2016, 04:49 PM
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Yes, but it's a benefits from a huge domestic internal market. The UK lacks this possiblity. Say you create a grocery chain, let's call it GentooMart. It can expand as a domestic chain to 49 other states. A GentooMart in the UK is confined to the island of 65 million people. Sure, it can expand on continental Europe, but it will be a foreign chain with foreign laws, and will get fierce competition of domestic ArieteMarkts and Rozennfours in the respectable countries.

That's the main difference.
To nitpick, in the US supermarket chains aren't national; they're regional. The largest western US supermarket chain, Safeway, is headquartered in a San Francisco suburb. Doesn't exist here. It did exist in the UK for a while after they bought a local chain.
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Old 10-09-2016, 05:06 PM
 
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To nitpick, in the US supermarket chains aren't national; they're regional. The largest western US supermarket chain, Safeway, is headquartered in a San Francisco suburb. Doesn't exist here. It did exist in the UK for a while after they bought a local chain.
This is true, in the DC suburbs where I live there is one Giant at our local shopping center and I thought it was this massive grocery brand that everyone the country over knew. I was shocked to discover outside of Maryland, practically no one has heard of it.
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Old 10-09-2016, 05:29 PM
 
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Dude, take it down a notch or two. It's not that serious jesus.
What? I don't understand what you're talking about. It's a forum of a bunch of randos, how serious do you actually think this is?
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Old 10-09-2016, 05:31 PM
 
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We're comparing Manchester with San Francisco. Oxbridge are nowhere near Manchester. Is there some other university in Manchester you wish to "prattle on about" or do you need a British geography lesson?

Manchester isn't comparable to any Ivy League university. Even Oxbridge isn't really comparable these days.


Except no one claimed that SF was comparable to London. Why would we do this when there's no disagreement?
The University of Manchester is a great school and definitely not in the same echelon as Stanford. If pitted against US schools, it's in the next step down of very good and respectable schools.

Saying Oxbridge isn't comparable to an Ivy League university is pretty ridiculous though.
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Old 10-09-2016, 05:42 PM
 
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The University of Manchester is a great school and definitely not in the same echelon as Stanford. If pitted against US schools, it's in the next step down of very good and respectable schools.

Saying Oxbridge isn't comparable to an Ivy League university is pretty ridiculous though.
I agree with the bolded.

you also right about your first statement but keep in mind, comparing the San Francisco bay area to Manchester in higher education still has San Francisco up being as even UCSF is ranked above Manchester in most rankings. This is not a hit on UK schools, just meant to point out all their really competitive global ones are based in one area like everything else. With California they have world class universities based both in the north and south adding diversity to it's regional importance
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Old 10-09-2016, 05:50 PM
 
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and to add to my post above, Stanford has a endowment of 22 billion while Oxbridge combined has an endowment of around 10 billion, less than half of Stanford by itself. This helps support research and development.

What others were saying with Ivy league being above oxbridge, keep in mind Harvard has an endowment (by it self) of 32.4 billion dollars. Yale has one of $25.2 billion, Princeton has an endowment of $22.7 billion. These numbers individual crush all of the UK's school endowment levels combined. Something to keep in mind.
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Old 10-09-2016, 07:13 PM
 
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Saying Oxbridge isn't comparable to an Ivy League university is pretty ridiculous though.
I think it's a very fair statement for 2016.

Oxbridge has a legacy reputation but doesn't really compare by most objective measures. At the very least, Oxbridge doesn't compare to the top-tier Ivy League schools. It doesn't fare well against Harvard, Princeton, Yale, probably Columbia, maybe even Penn. Cornell is probably broadly stronger, Dartmouth quite prestigious but not really a well-rounded University, maybe Brown?

Oxbridge does have a name/global brand that's certainly top-tier, though.
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Old 10-09-2016, 08:58 PM
 
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I agree with the bolded.

you also right about your first statement but keep in mind, comparing the San Francisco bay area to Manchester in higher education still has San Francisco up being as even UCSF is ranked above Manchester in most rankings. This is not a hit on UK schools, just meant to point out all their really competitive global ones are based in one area like everything else. With California they have world class universities based both in the north and south adding diversity to it's regional importance
Yea, definitely, California has some of the best universities in the world especially when it comes to graduate programs. California is quite large, populous, and wealthy, so it makes sense it has world class universities.
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Old 10-09-2016, 09:02 PM
 
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I think it's a very fair statement for 2016.

Oxbridge has a legacy reputation but doesn't really compare by most objective measures. At the very least, Oxbridge doesn't compare to the top-tier Ivy League schools. It doesn't fare well against Harvard, Princeton, Yale, probably Columbia, maybe even Penn. Cornell is probably broadly stronger, Dartmouth quite prestigious but not really a well-rounded University, maybe Brown?

Oxbridge does have a name/global brand that's certainly top-tier, though.
I don't know about that--the three major global university rankings try to make their ratings as sensible as they could and Oxbridge is always in the mix at the top for all three of those rankings. I'm not sure what measure you're going by. I know you mentioned endowments in the past post, but that doesn't make so much sense because UK universities aren't funded in the same way that the US universities are, especially not private US universities. This also doesn't mean that they're getting overall less funding or other support though. What were the other factors you think Oxbridge aren't getting and that the three most widely cited ranking systems are all getting wrong?
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Old 10-10-2016, 12:19 AM
 
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To nitpick, in the US supermarket chains aren't national; they're regional. The largest western US supermarket chain, Safeway, is headquartered in a San Francisco suburb. Doesn't exist here. It did exist in the UK for a while after they bought a local chain.
Well, Gentoo is a business mogul. He created also Gentoo Electric, Gentoo Corn & Wheat and Gentoo Pavement.
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