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Old 11-05-2016, 01:41 PM
 
Location: Eindhoven, Netherlands
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"towers with human skulls", really?
Walls then.

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Old 11-05-2016, 03:08 PM
 
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In most instances, those systems have been removed through civil war, coup d-tats or elections and then replaced, often with something far, far worse. The replacement regimes then blame America, colonialism, capitalism and/or imperialism for their failures.
They haven't been removed actually, and very little changes have been made in their legal systems. A good exception is Chile, but it's not a tropical country. Chile made radical changes in its legal system, studying the US legal system and partly modeling itself after it.

And I don't agree with blaming imperialism and colonialism for failures. I also don't agree with pretending that the past has nothing to do with the present, and pretending that within the global economy, there has always been a level playing field and some cultures just don't get it.

Conquest has left a dirty societal and legal set-up that hasn't been completely fixed yet. Plus, a poor culture of taking and taking in taking without developing.
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Old 11-05-2016, 07:10 PM
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Location: Ontario
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Who knows? Some were relatively humane (by the standards of the time), many were brutal. If you lived in northern Europe in the middle ages, however, I doubt you could have imagined that just and progressive societies would ever emerge from the barbarism of that age.
Renaissance and the Industrial Revolution....

Europe for the win, Alex
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Old 11-05-2016, 10:31 PM
 
Location: Katy,Texas
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I would argue that the IR can be credited solely to England and not Europe as a whole. Also you are giving racial benefits when it is clearly Germanic culture dominating with Romance next and Slavic very distant doing as much for the world as subsaharan-Africa technology wise.
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Old 11-05-2016, 10:37 PM
 
Location: Taipei
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Walls then.
There are tons of those in Europe as well.
http://www.ancient-origins.net/sites...?itok=20_HHaVH

Duh.

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Old 11-06-2016, 06:34 AM
 
Location: Eindhoven, Netherlands
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There are tons of those in Europe as well.
http://www.ancient-origins.net/sites...?itok=20_HHaVH

Duh.
Yes underground.
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Old 11-06-2016, 08:29 AM
 
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Native Americans were not advanced at all compared to most European Countries/China/Korea/Japan in the 1400's.
If you consider people that barely wear any clothing, sacrifice people, eat human flesh and build towers with human skulls call "advanced" in the 1400's there's something wrong with you.


Seriously? They also had advanced water and sewer systems, clean organized cities, a control over illnesses, advanced agriculture which gave to you tomatoes, potatoes, vanilla, chocolate, gum, popcorn and many other food items, free education, extensive medicinal knowledge, an advanced understanding of astronomy and many other cultural developments.

They had slaves and sacrificed people, not much different than all of the brutal wars around the world and the ill treatment of people in many parts of the world during forced occupations. The Dutch, as much as most European colonizers, were particularly brutal. You have no room to talk. Skinning people and throwing the skin on a rack to intimidate and force people to work, killing the child of a person who rebelled and placing them on a stick in front of their homes, and many other atrocious things.
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Old 11-06-2016, 08:31 AM
 
Location: In the heights
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Sure, I think it's very well possible that countries aside from Singapore can do so. My bets would be on Malaysia, Thailand, Sri Lanka, Costa Rica, Panama, Mexico and Colombia in the next couple of decades and maybe a few Caribbean island nations.
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Old 11-06-2016, 08:38 AM
 
Location: Eindhoven, Netherlands
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The Dutch, as much as most European colonizers, were particularly brutal. You have no room to talk. Skinning people and throwing the skin on a rack to intimidate and force people to work, killing the child of a person who rebelled and placing them on a stick in front of their homes, and many other atrocious things.
Source?
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Old 11-06-2016, 08:45 AM
 
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Didn't you see the ?

I was kidding. While Europe was leaving the Dark Ages behind and creating great art, the more 'advanced' societies of the Americas were enjoying fresh human flesh and blood.
Great art was also being created in the Americas. There were art and poetry schools, you should look into it.
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