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Old 12-13-2016, 04:28 PM
 
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The Prime Minister of Canada with a majority government (which is usually the case for our PMs) is arguably the most powerful leader in the western world - internally in his own country.

Very true, I did not think about it before writing, I did not need to be an expert of Canadian politics and government institution scholar to mention just that simple aspect...a PM where his party hold the majority of votes can pass whatever he wants...but that is the same in every western parliamentary democracy, meaning without an executive head of state.
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Old 12-14-2016, 06:43 AM
 
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I'd have to disagree with that and I think most Canadians would disagree. So I think maybe you just don't understand much about Canada and Canadian independence or else you are over-estimating American influence.

Canada marches to the beat of its own drummers and hasn't chosen any one country over any other to emulate. Certainly it hasn't allowed itself to be dominated by any other country, most definitely not by America. I've noticed that Canadians generally try hard to not be equated with America and many people make a big deal of trying to point out all the differences and ways in which they aren't like America.

Yes, it's true Canada has adopted for its own self a lot of things from American culture and advanced technologies that it's been exposed to and can take advantage of but then so has every other country in the world. What country in their right minds wouldn't take advantage of things that they can use to their own benefit? Choosing to take advantage of what is offered doesn't mean they are choosing to be dominated.

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. Perhaps you'd like to re-phrase what you were trying to say in words that can be interpreted as less aggressive and hostile?

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I know that Canadians try not to be Americans and spend much time concerning themselves with not emulating the US. BUT, they dress like Americans -- terribly. They eat like Americans including the same foods and the way that they hold their dinnerware. They watch the same TV. They drive the same cars. Listen to the same music. Heck, half of Ontario spends their winters in Florida.

Hard as the Canadians might try to be different, if you put a group of Americans and Canadians together in the same room and had a non-biased observer try to differentiate them (save the Quebecois), he'd be hard pressed to do so. Half of the people in the room would not be able to tell who was who.
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Old 12-14-2016, 06:47 AM
 
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I don't know, because they like cuisine? The better question is why the UK doesn't rid itself of itself, starting with the parasitic monarchy.
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Old 12-14-2016, 06:54 AM
 
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I don't know, because they like cuisine? The better question is why the UK doesn't rid itself of itself, starting with the parasitic monarchy.
There's plenty of good cusine in the UK and the Monarch is merely a figure head in the UK.

YouGov | The Monarchy: popular across society and 'here to stay'

British Monarchy Poll Results - ISideWith.com

Monarchy popular as ever ahead of Queen's 90th Birthday

Sky Data: Most Britons Want To Retain Monarchy - Sky News

Best not to tell others how to live. I never become involved in Americas gun debate because that is a domestic issue for Americans to decide themselves and the same applies to British Domestic Issues.
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Old 12-14-2016, 07:40 AM
 
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There's plenty of good cusine in the UK and the Monarch is merely a figure head in the UK. lots of additional drivel ...
I frankly don't care what you do with your $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ monarchy. You're the fools who've been suffering their parasitic tax drain well past Cromwell. More power to you! The question regarded Canadians and why they've "separated" (not enough in my opinion).
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Old 12-14-2016, 07:43 AM
 
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I frankly don't care what you do with your $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ monarchy. You're the fools who've been suffering their parasitic tax drain well past Cromwell. More power to you! The question regarded Canadians and why they've "separated" (not enough in my opinion).
The annual cost of the Monarchy which mainly involves the upkeep of important historic buildings which would have to be paid for anyway is 56p per person which equates to 71 US Cents per year, that's less than One US Dollar per year.

The vast majority of the money spent is on buildings which belong to the Crown Estates and is nothing to do with the actual Monarchy, many of whom serve in the armed forces and take paid jobs.

Prince William is currently pilots an Air Ambulance in East Anglia, whilst his brother served in the Army for a number of years and did frontline duty and currently supprts service charities and injured service personnel, which is more than can be said for many American politicians.

It's our history and pagentry, and put it this way the Monarcy is far cheaper and far more popular than many of the politicians who sit in Westminster, which is about to embark on a multi billion pound refurbishment.

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Old 12-14-2016, 07:50 AM
 
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The annual cost of the Monarchy which mainly involves the upkeep of important historic buildings which would have to be paid for anyway is 56p per person which is
Honestly, this is my last post on this subject. Your pointless adornment (which you call a "figurehead") costs well more than 56 pounds per person/annum, if you take into account all of the vast tracts of land that the QEII controls. It is a huge, huge drain on your economy. But then, as the wannabe London toff I have no doubt you to be, I doubt you'd understand. I'm sure you'd get a very different take on things if you drove to a place like Newcastle (pssst, it's in the north, near Scotland). You might then understand how imbalanced development in the UK is and precisely why Brexit won.
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Old 12-14-2016, 07:52 AM
 
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The annual cost of the Monarchy which mainly involves the upkeep of important historic buildings which would have to be paid for anyway is 56p per person which equates to 71 US Cents per year.

The vast majority of the money spent is on buildings which belong to the Crown Estates and is nothing to do with the actual Monarchy, many of whom serve in the armed forces and take paid jobs.

Prince William is currently pilots an Air Ambulance in East Anglia, whilst his brother served in the Army for a number of years and did frontline duty and currently supprts service charities and injured service personnel, which is more than can be said for many American politicians.

It's our history and pagentry, and put it this way the Monarcy is far cheaper and far more popular than many of the politicians who sit in Westminster.
Do you think Prince William would be in that vocational field if he was not who he is with all his connections?

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Old 12-14-2016, 08:00 AM
 
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Honestly, this is my last post on this subject. Your pointless adornment (which you call a "figurehead") costs well more than 56 pounds per person/annum, if you take into account all of the vast tracts of land that the QEII controls. It is a huge, huge drain on your economy. But then, as the wannabe London toff I have no doubt you to be, I doubt you'd understand. I'm sure you'd get a very different take on things if you drove to a place like Newcastle (pssst, it's in the north, near Scotland). You might then understand how imbalanced development in the UK is and precisely why Brexit won.
I have family in Newcastle (and know the City very very well) and indeed I also have family in Scotland and as already stated the vast majority of people in this country according to polls support the Monatchy or do you think I don't know my own country or that somehow we all just stick to are own little part of this small island.

Lets put the boot on the other foot, because I am British I demand that the US get rid of all it's gun, a civilised people should have no need for guns. You need to tax all guns and have socialised health care and proper benefits for everybody and you need a seperate Head of State to the President and need to change the Right to Bear Arms and the US Constitution.

Indeed how dare Americans have so many guns.

Most Americans would tell me to mind my own business, as it's domestic policy, and nothing to do with me, and that is what I am saying to you.

Telling other nations how to live their lives or other people how to run their nations is exactly why the world is in such a mess.
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Old 12-14-2016, 08:07 AM
 
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Do you think Prince William would be in that vocational field if he was not who he is with all his connections?
He learnt to fly helicopters in the Army, he had the relevant qualifications and many Ex-Military Helicopter pilots seek work flying police helicopters, air ambulances, coastguard helicopters etc.

There are much better paid jobs in the City and in a wide array of professions.
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