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Old 01-22-2017, 04:58 AM
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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Originally Posted by mooguy View Post
About one-quarter of Canada is French and Canada has 2 official languages, English and French.

Quebecers were not enamored with Britain or the Empire but Canadians have never had the close relationship to Britain as Australia or NZ and more importantly never really wanted it. Surprisingly Americans have more affection for Britain and her culture than Canadians do. For the vast majority of Canadians, Britain is a very good friend and ally but not really a family member. The ONLY reason Canada isn't a republic is because the US is. Canadians view themselves as more aligned with Northern Europe as a whole both culturally and socially.

As far as the Australia or NZ, they shouldn't use Canada as an example. We got rid of our flag because we wanted to. Our people, values, and history are different from Australia/NZ. You should do what you think is best for your countries not because another country did it so you feel compelled. Any debate about the issue in Aus/NZ should focus solely on your own beliefs and bringing Canada into the conversation is disingenuous.
I agree with quite a bit of this but why would we be a monarchy is we're aligned with Northern Europe? We don't have any special ties with the Netherlands and Scandinavia, or Belgium or Luxembourg, which are the non-British monarchies of Northern Europe.

France has a big influence on a rather large part of Canada and it's staunchly republicain.

I do see some resemblances and affinities between Canada and Northern Europe in general, but a strong monarchist tradition is not really one of them.
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Old 01-22-2017, 05:05 AM
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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Originally Posted by Bakery Hill View Post
You underestimate the division between different groups in Australia's early history, notable the Irish Catholics and British. At the time they were marked by different cultures, different religions, centuries of hostile history and to a degree different languages. Those divisions played out in politics, and socially in the large health and education systems run by the (Irish) Catholic church. But today the we use the term Anglo-Celtic without a second thought. Unlike Canada those divides were never backed-up and reinforced by geography, state boundaries and language laws, so the melting pot started to work very early on. You can say the same for other non British groups in Australia.
We've discussed this many times before and it's not really the same.

Australia does not have a parallel society (nation within the nation) that pre-dates the implementation of the current mainstream society and which has subsisted over the centuries as a distinct, even separate, entity.
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