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Old 02-03-2017, 03:46 PM
 
Location: Ashland, Oregon
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Not for anything, but Japan doesn't exactly have much room for immigrants. Heck, they barely have enough room for their own population. You can't squeeze blood out of a stone.
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Old 02-03-2017, 03:50 PM
 
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Not for anything, but Japan doesn't exactly have much room for immigrants. Heck, they barely have enough room for their own population. You can't squeeze blood out of a stone.
England is more dense than Japan they still have a lot of immigrants though.
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Old 02-03-2017, 08:42 PM
 
Location: Taipei
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What colonies did Japan have?
Korea and Taiwan.

Japan is too crowded.
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Old 02-04-2017, 01:04 AM
 
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I don't think refugees from the Middle East want to go to Japan, if they have a chance to go to Western countries.

Although Muslims and Christians have been hostile to each other for a thousand years, these People of the Book know something about each other, at least.
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Old 02-04-2017, 01:26 AM
 
Location: Finland
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Korea and Taiwan.
I would call them occupied territories instead of colonies.
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Old 02-04-2017, 01:35 AM
 
Location: Taipei
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I would call them occupied territories instead of colonies.
Why?
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Old 02-04-2017, 02:00 AM
 
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Japan shouldn't be reprimanded nor should they be forced to take in refugees against their will.


Saudi Arabia, Iran, UAE, Qatar, Bahrain and certain other nations could step up and accept refugees. They have the money. If they can spend billions to build mosques, why can't the spend more to aide the refugees in more practical ways? And quite frankly, some of these nations play some role in a lot of the mess that goes on in the middle east, such as funding extremist groups like Hezbollah, ISIS, Hamas, PLO, Boko Haram, etc.


These nations also for decades now have had a lot of clout in the UN; they call the shots. Western nations have kow-towwed for decades. This is why we have nationalism resurging (Trump, Brexit, etc). It's gotten now to the point where citizens of these respective western nations feel that their governments put refugees and their needs ahead of those of citizens. Mind you, caring for these "refugees" isn't free. Taxpayers are footing the bill from the moment the refugee is approved by the corrupt state department. We're paying for their welfare.


Nations like Sweden and Norway had no colonies, but they're shouldering a lot of the burden. This is more than just about what the west may have done to the middle east. I consider it another incarnation of the Ottoman empire. Look at the nations where these "refugees" come from (and NO they are not all Syrian or Iraqi, and YES they are mostly grown men). What's going on in these nations? Some of these oppressive cultures have existed for centuries, even before contact with the modern west.


If it's only about what America supposedly did, then why are there massacres in Paris? Nice? Brussels? Etc. As for the poverty in those parts of the world, maybe look to their leadership. Qatar is a good example of a nation with an atrocious human rights record, yet those who rule the nation live quite lavishly.

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Old 02-04-2017, 02:04 AM
 
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Japan, learn from the European Union's mistakes. And DON'T take in refugees who are not properly vetted.
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Old 02-04-2017, 02:10 AM
 
Location: Canada
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I would call them occupied territories instead of colonies.
In politics and history, a colony is a territory under the immediate political control of a state, distinct from the home territory of the sovereign. Places like Korea and Taiwan were fully part of the Japanese Empire, their peoples were made an underclass without the same rights as Japanese, their cultures were marginalized, and their lands exploited. They were in every sense colonies in the manner of other contemporary colonies. They weren't, like, say, Nazi occupied Denmark in that they suffered under Japanese colonialism for 2 generations and it reshaped the economic and social structure of the entirety of their societies. They were also each settled by hundreds of thousands of Japanese civilians who were deliberately advantaged by Japanese enacted laws so that they composed a privileged elite class in society.
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Old 02-04-2017, 02:39 AM
 
Location: Finland
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Why?
Mostly due to the nature of the territories. Korea and Taiwan were supposed to be integrated into the Empire of Japan suppressing the native culture, but also developing the infrastructure while being still effectually under martial law. IMO that puts them in another basket than for example the African colonies.

Legally of course they were colonies or like colonies.
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